Showing posts with label Sweden. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sweden. Show all posts

Monday, March 16, 2009

eliminate the payroll tax and replace it with a tax on consuming things harmful to the environment

From Free Exchange:

"The payroll tax keeps the retired off welfare
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HENDRIK HERTZBERG reckons the US should eliminate the payroll tax and replace it with a tax on consuming things harmful to the environment. It soundS like a happy idea, satisfying the agendas of both parties.

Liberals have been reticent, too. The payroll tax now provides a third of federal revenues. And, because it nominally funds Social Security and Medicare, some liberals regard its continuance as essential to the survival of those programs. That’s almost certainly wrong. Public pensions and medical care for the aged have become fixed, integral parts of American life. Their political support no longer depends on analogizing them to private insurance. Besides, the aging of the population, the collapse of defined-benefit private pensions, the volatility of 401(k)s, and pricey advances in medical technology mean that, no matter what efficiencies may be achieved, Social Security and Medicare will—and should—grow. Holding them hostage to ever-rising, job-killing payroll taxes is perverse.
Felix Salmon calls payroll taxes "horribly regressive" because they are a flat 15.3% (including employer and employee contributions) on income.

So what's wrong with that idea? The problem is the payroll tax is more of a forced savings scheme than a tax. The amount of taxes you pay, the number of years you pay, and average wage growth determine your benefit. Social Security is progressive because the lower your income, the higher your benefit relative to your contribution. If you are a low wage earner you can expect a high fraction of your average monthly income as your Social Security benefit. In this sense Social Security serves as both national insurance and as a form of welfare. Taking away the payroll tax and replacing it with a more "progressive" consumption tax puts an enormous burden on middle- to upper-income earners. An average wage earner already see less than a 2% return on their Social Security tax dollar. Scrapping the payroll tax entails completely changing how benefits are calculated. Would your benefit somehow be proportional to how much carbon you consumed as a worker?

I heard Amity Shlaes once say she does not like the idea of a payroll tax holiday because it eliminates any illusion that Social Security is an insurance scheme, rendering it entirely a welfare system (this brings the US one big step closer to being no better than Sweden). That sounds like what Mr Hertzberg is advocating. In that case it does not really address the death of defined benefit plans (whose demise shoud be welcomed anyhow) and 401(k) volatility, it just means we’ve created a huge welfare system. This does not address the savings needs of most of the population.

Now, I have always thought Social Security did a pretty lousy job by being both an insurance and a welfare system. If we overhaul the system the welfare component of it should be separate and the forced saving part can work in a myriad of funded ways. But, you cannot simply swap out a payroll tax for a consumption tax without changing the entire scope of a state pension. "

Me:

Don the libertarian Democrat wrote:
March 16, 2009 23:18

Just so we're clear about Sweden:

http://www.forsakringskassan.se/sprak/eng/pension/

"The pension is based on the income you have had during the whole of your life [from the age of 16 up to and including 1998]. If you have worked for a long time and earned a lot, you will receive a higher pension. Similarly, you will receive less pension if your income has been low."

And:

"Premium pension [Premiepension]

2.5 per cent of your pensionable income goes towards your premium pension. For those born between 1938 and 1953, this percentage is less. You may choose to invest your pension capital in any of the various funds registered with the Premium Pension Authority."

I'm for a Guaranteed Income as advocated by Milton Friedman and Charles Murray.

Sunday, November 30, 2008

"Sweden would need to design any guarantees or loans carefully to avoid breaching European Union rules on state aid."

Are they going to ask me for money? From the FT:

"
Volvo and Saab ask Sweden for aid

By John Reed in London

Published: November 30 2008 23:37 | Last updated: December 1 2008 00:24

General Motors and Ford Motor have approached Sweden’s government about financial aid for their lossmaking Saab and Volvo brands.

GM and Ford want to bolster the two marques’ finances in anticipation of selling them as the Detroit carmakers grapple with a cash crunch that threatens their survival."

I'm reeling from the size of this tin cup:

"Sweden’s government has considered devoting about SKr2bn ($248m) to Saab and Volvo in direct aid or loan guarantees, although “the discussion is open”, said Matts Carlsson, auto industry analyst at the Gothenburg Management Institute.

“The car industry in Sweden is of importance for the country as a whole, and they are open to the idea,” Mr Carlsson said. Spokespeople for Sweden’s industry ministry, Saab and Volvo could not be reached yesterday.

In Germany, Angela Merkel’s government is considering giving GM’s Opel unit a €1bn ($1.3bn) credit guarantee.

Analysts have long argued that GM has too many brands. It is reportedly also considering selling Saturn and Pontiac.

Mr Jonsson “has been talking to government about loan guarantees, and maybe even taking an equity stake in Saab”, said one person briefed on the discussions. GM has also raised the possibility with Stockholm of bringing more of Saab’s overseas production back to Sweden.

However, Sweden would need to design any guarantees or loans carefully to avoid breaching European Union rules on state aid."

I'd like to know how they do this. It looks suspiciously like state aid.

Monday, November 10, 2008

''The state does not save banks to save the banks and their shareholders, but to make sure that households are not affected,''

Bagehot's rules observed in Sweden. Via the NY Times:

"The Swedish state will take control of troubled investment bank Carnegie and sell it off after the country's financial regulator revoked its banking license due to what it said was illegal trading activities.

In an assessment of Carnegie published Monday, the Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority said the bank took ''exceptional risks'' by lending large amounts of money to a single customer and broke the law by acting as a guarantor for the same funds it also managed.

The regulator said Carnegie will be taken over and then sold off by the national debt office. This means it will be able to continue its banking operations and that clients won't be affected by its decision.

The regulator said an extraordinary general meeting will be held as soon as possible to elect a new board, which will be charged with developing the bank until its businesses are sold off.

The debt office said Peter Norman, chief executive of one of Sweden's national pension funds, will take over as chairman of Carnegie. ''It is obvious that a board that has been responsible for the work that has been conducted does not have the confidence to stay,'' the director general of the debt office, Bo Lundgren said at a press conference."

This is how to enforce moral hazard before a systemic quake can occur. Quick and onerous. If anything, maybe a tad too slow, but onerous.

"The regulator's legal adviser, Joakim Schaaf, noted a warning had been issued to the bank as recently as September last year after an investigation showed the company had manipulated its trading results.

The watchdog launched a new investigation into Carnegie on Oct. 27 after its third-quarter report revealed a 1 billion kronor ($126 million) writedown related to ''an individual credit commitment.''

The Swedish government said earlier on Monday it had arranged to lend Carnegie 5 billion kronor ($630 million) in case it should be stripped of its license. The loan will replace the liquidity support -- granted at the end of October by the Swedish central bank -- which will be withdrawn as a result of the revoked license."

I like the fact that the whole operation is being investigated.

"Financial Markets' Minister Mats Odell said the government regards Carnegie's health to be important for the wider financial system considering it is managing a capital of more than 120 billion kronor ($15 billion).

''The state does not save banks to save the banks and their shareholders, but to make sure that households are not affected,'' he said."

Absolutely right.