Showing posts with label Brazilian C Bond. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Brazilian C Bond. Show all posts

Wednesday, December 3, 2008

"I suppose it makes sense to start thinking about funding it now, while Treasury rates are uncommonly low."

Felix Salmon shops 100 Year Bonds, and doesn't seem a buyer:

"Ah yes, Social Security. I remember that; I suppose it makes sense to start thinking about funding it now, while Treasury rates are uncommonly low.

That said, however, I'm not a fan of Fisher's idea. Have a look at David Merkel's list of US government obligations which trade very wide to Treasuries -- and note that the spreads involved are only getting wider. Anything which is illiquid, and anything which needs to be explained, trades at a significant discount. Any century bond would fall into that category -- especially if it had some weird amortizing structure where principal was paid down over the second 50 years."

Leave the spreads to me, and we'll deal with the details later.

"If Fisher had dealt with international rather than domestic finance, he would remember the Brady market, which was full of weird and wonderful sovereign debt instruments, foremost among them the Brazilian C bond. I once, for no particular reason, tried to find out exactly how the C bond was structured, and asked a bunch of people who actually traded it for a living. None of them could tell me. Unsurprisingly, Brazil's plain-vanilla global bonds traded at much tighter spreads than its Brady bonds, and a lot of investment banks made a lot of money in the late 1990s structuring swaps whereby Latin American countries issued new global bonds and bought back the Bradies which nobody wanted or understood."

Come now. How hard can this be? You just tried explaining Senior Tranches and you're worried about simple 100 year bonds?

"The Treasury market has no interest in trading anything clever -- that's one reason why TIPS are trading at such ridiculous levels right now. Investors in Treasuries know what they want, and that's large, liquid issues of bullet bonds at round-number maturities like 10 years. Even the 30-year long bond is out of favor these days."

That's because it's not long enough.

"In any case, Treasury has its hands full these days funding TARP, and whatever stimulus plan is going to be enacted sooner rather than later. Social Security may or may not be a problem in the long term, but it's relatively low on the list of priorities right now."

Hands full with TARP? I've just read the GAO report for the second time, and I can't figure out where their time goes. It certainly isn't spent in planning. I'm not asking them to write Finnegans Wake, just construct a few simple bonds. Perpetuals and 100 Year Bonds. I'll tell you what, they can e-mail me, and I'll write up the proposal for free. William Gross said he'll work for free ( Of course, he's got about a billion dollars more than I do ), and I will as well. Is that fair enough?

Here's my comment:

Posted: Dec 03 2008 3:30pm ET
I'm not having a good day. Last night, I went to bed, and dreamed about perpetuals and 100 year bonds. I'd really like perpetuals, but I'll take 100 years.

So, what do I find today. Two of my favorite blogs, yours and Alphaville, are stabbing be in the back to my face, and, I'll tell, that's not a comfortable position to be in.

So, get on board and start talking these things up. I'm not much of an investor, but I really love the idea of bonds that are a bet on how long I'll live. That's right, I plan on being around to turn these bonds in myself. Even the perpetuals.

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

"``The Fed is making dollars available to the central banks of these countries who are trying to meet the needs of their banking systems.''

We've discussed Swap lines to various smaller countries from the Fed in discussing:

Soros:
2) Swap lines from big countries to small countries ( Fine )


Sachs:
1) Big national banks extend swap lines to smaller country national banks. ( Fine )
See Brad Setser here.

From Bloomberg:

"Fed Opens Swaps With South Korea, Brazil, Mexico, Singapore

By Steve Matthews and William Sim

Oct. 30 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve agreed to provide $30 billion each to the central banks of Brazil, Mexico, South Korea and Singapore, expanding its effort to unfreeze money markets to emerging nations for the first time.

The Fed set up ``liquidity swap facilities with the central banks of these four large systemically important economies'' effective until April 30, the central bank said yesterday in a statement. The arrangements aim ``to mitigate the spread of difficulties in obtaining U.S. dollar funding.''

Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke is trying to prevent the global credit crisis from upending the financial markets and economies of developing countries, where currencies have plunged and government bond premiums have soared. The Fed yesterday cut its benchmark interest rate, followed by Hong Kong and Taiwan today."

Read the whole post.

I agree with this:

``We can't leave these other important countries out in the cold,'' said Edwin Truman, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington and former chief of the Fed's international-finance division. ``A global recession is being caused by the effects of seizing up of the financial system around the world.''

Countries listed:
South Korea
Brazil
Mexico
Singapore
New Zealand
Australia
Central European Bank

and a few others.

Also, Brad Setser
:

"Today the Federal Reserve indicated that it would swap US dollars for Brazilian real, Korean won, Mexican pesos and Singapore dollars — effectively allowing a select group of emerging economies to borrow dollars on terms similar to those available to the G-10 economies. Or almost similar terms. The G-10 central banks can currently borrow dollars from the Fed without limit; the four selected emerging market central banks can only borrow $30 billion each. But $120 billion is real money — and if need be, the the size of these swap lines conceivably could be increased.

This move goes some way toward breaking down the line between the G-7 (really G-10) economies and emerging economies that emerged after the G-7 countries guaranteed that systemically important financial institutions in their economies wouldn’t be allowed to fail and the Fed expanded the scale of the swap lines available to European economies whose banks had a large need for dollars. "