Showing posts with label Religion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Religion. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 17, 2009

hese women had "loose morals" and were rightfully shot by male relatives in honor killings.

TO BE NOTED: From the Hub:

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Chechnya: “Honor killings” defended by President Kadyrov


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In November 2008, bodies of seven young women with gunshot wounds to the head were discovered dumped by roadsides in and around the Chechen capital Gtozny. Chechen human rights commissioner was quoted saying that murdered women "have forgotten the mountain women's code of behavior" and that their male relatives "feel they have been insulted and sometimes take the law into their own hands." While Chechen President Kadyrov initially called the killings "outrageous," the Associated Press reported him saying in February 2009 that these women had "loose morals" and were rightfully shot by male relatives in honor killings.

But as those fighting against misuse of religion and culture to justify violence would tell us: "There is no honor in killing!" This is the interview with Chechen activists Gistam Sakayeva who works to defend rights of women. She describes the culture surrounding killings of women in Checnhya and provides concrete suggestions on how to respond to this type of violence."

Thursday, November 20, 2008

"Responsibility and restraint are moral sentiments. Remorse is a product of conscience. None of these grow on trees."

Rod Dreher posts about a post in the WSJ by Daniel Henninger:

"The WSJ's Daniel Henninger sees the economic crisis as fundamentally a crisis of faith and morals. Excerpt:
What really went missing through the subprime mortgage years were the three Rs: responsibility, restraint and remorse. They are the ballast that stabilizes two better-known Rs from the world of free markets: risk and reward.

Responsibility and restraint are moral sentiments. Remorse is a product of conscience. None of these grow on trees. Each must be learned, taught, passed down. And so we come back to the disappearance of "Merry Christmas."

It has been my view that the steady secularizing and insistent effort at dereligioning America has been dangerous. That danger flashed red in the fall into subprime personal behavior by borrowers and bankers, who after all are just people. Northerners and atheists who vilify Southern evangelicals are throwing out nurturers of useful virtue with the bathwater of obnoxious political opinions.

The point for a healthy society of commerce and politics is not that religion saves, but that it keeps most of the players inside the chalk lines. We are erasing the chalk lines.

Feel free: Banish Merry Christmas. Get ready for Mad Max.

Well, everybody said "Merry Christmas" back in 1929, and still. But I see his point."

I do as well, in the sense that I believe fraud, negligence, and fiduciary mismanagement are major causes of this crisis, but he didn't exactly bring a strong torch with which to illuminate his point. Here's my comment:

Don
November 20, 2008 9:37 AM
http://don-thelibertariandemocrat.blogspot.com/

"The point for a healthy society of commerce and politics is not that religion saves, but that it keeps most of the players inside the chalk lines. We are erasing the chalk lines.'

There is a problem with this argument, which I most enjoyed when presented by Bolingbroke. He argued that organized religion was important in order to keep the masses law abiding. Of course, this had nothing to do with whether or not they were true, or even whether or not there's a God. He was a deist. He also believed that the elite didn't need these silly constraints, and should govern intelligently, irrespective of what the masses needed.

The main problem with this argument is that it makes organized religion a utilitarian and sociological concern, and so, should it ever be shown to outlive its usefulness, it should be discarded.

There is also a the problem that in WW II, say, atheists like Camus and Amery behaved courageously, while many others did not. There are some missing steps or data he'd need to be able to buttress his argument. Maybe he has it, I don't know. But I'd stay away from utilitarian reasoning, as it has a nasty tendency to end up leading to moral conundrums and two-edged swords.