Showing posts with label High Tech Bubble. Show all posts
Showing posts with label High Tech Bubble. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Bubbles are financing phenomena; depressions are financing phenomena. They are opposite sides of the same coin.

TO BE NOTED: From The Aleph Blog:

"Not All Bubbles Lead to Depressions

I enjoyed the opinion piece in yesterday’s WSJ, From Bubble to Depression? I want to clear up a few of their misconceptions. Key quote:

Earlier, during the downturn in the equities market between December 1999 and September 2002, approximately $10 trillion of equity was erased. But a measure of financial system performance, the Keefe, Bruyette, & Woods BKX index of financial firms, fell less than 6% during that period. In the current downturn, the value of residential real estate has fallen by approximately $3 trillion, but the BKX index has now fallen 75% from its peak of January 2007. The financial sector has been devastated in this crisis, whereas it was almost completely unaffected by the downturn in the equities market early in this decade.

How can one crash that wipes out $10 trillion in assets cause no damage to the financial system and another that causes $3 trillion in losses devastate the financial system?

They almost get it in their later paragraphs, but the answer is simple. In the first “crash,” the losses were mainly equity-based, so there were no knock-on effects on other entities. No additional dominoes fell. With housing in the late 2000s, a loss of $3 billion happened on assets that were usually levered with debt at 5x to 30x, probably averaging 10x. And, these mortgages were held by leveraged banks that had borrowed in many other places in the overall financial system, and sometimes by even more leveraged speculators using CDOs.

Let me say it again — Bubbles are financing phenomena; depressions are financing phenomena. They are opposite sides of the same coin. The severity of bubbles differs with the amount of debt employed and the pervasiveness of the sectors of the economy affected. The tech bubble did not have much debt, and it was contained. The real estate bubble was the opposite.

The thing is, the amount of debt we have racked up as a fraction of GDP exceeds that of the Great Depression. My view is that many debts will have to be liquidated before the US economy grows robustly again, whether through payoff, compromise or inflation.

Now, we had Michael Mayo today offering his opinions on the banks, (two, three) which are not all that much different than mine. In an era of debt deflation, coming off record debt-to-GDP ratios, it is next to impossible for the US Government to make any significant difference against the deflation. Better not to try at all. An action big enough for the US Government to absorb the necessary amount of bad debt will kill the Dollar.

This last bubble has led to a depression, because of the debts incurred. We must liquidate debts, but in the process, the economy will suffer. I’m sorry, I like prosperity too, but there is no way out of this period of debt liquidation. Just as the period of debt growth pushed asset prices up, so the period of debt deflation will push asset prices down.

My advice? Avoid almost all banks, and other financial companies sensitive to the stock market or real estate, in terms of both equity and bond investments.


  1. David Merkel Says:

    Logan, I’m not ruling it out. I’m saying there would be a cost attached. Some problems with collateral values could be solved through inflation, passing the costs to those who cannot hedge fully, which is most of us, but especially the elderly and foreign creditors.

    I’ve been asked about the effect on gold and other hedges — I do think that inflation will be one of the tools that the government/Fed uses to get out of this crisis, and it will have a positive effect on all inflation hedges. In the short run, though, Ben Bernanke is determined not to let any the liquidity that he is monopolizing leak out into the broader economy; I think he is trying to fight a depression without creating any inflation, which I think is an unusual intellectual conceit. I’m just not sure how long the condition will last.

    Oh, and regarding bonds — since someone else asked: I like TIPS, foreign short-to-intermediate bonds, conforming RMBS, Short-to-intermediate corporates BBB and lower but not of financials (except a few stray insurers).

Monday, December 8, 2008

"The practical problem is that the institutions involved are probably too big to jail. "

Burke turned up in Jesse's Cafe Americain today, so we've got to feature it:

"Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist."
Edmund Burke

Although Nassim Taleb makes some excellent points he is a bit narrow in his analysis because of his superior knowledge and experience in a highly specific area of the crisis, which in some ways is a broader cultural crisis.

There may be enough fraud involved in the US over the past twenty years for multiple prosecutions under the RICO statutes. Or it just may be the end result of a general breakdown in morals, from the top down by example perhaps.

One does find some institutions appearing as enablers at the heart of every crisis, from LTCM to Enron to the Accounting Frauds to the Tech Bubble to the Credit Bubble.

No, this was worse than the silence of the witnesses to the assault of Kitty Genovese that gave the label to the bystander effect.

In this case there were 'bystanders' who financially benefited from the assault and who not only kept quiet but actively intimidated and silenced other bystanders through ridicule and fear of retribution. But there are also many who simply did not care then and will not care once the markets rally once again. This is the sad commentary on a nation corrupted by easy money.

There were many bystanders who did call 911 and were ignored because those in the enforcement chain were either asleep on the job or had other competing interests.

The practical problem is that the institutions involved are probably too big to jail.

That is their strength, but ironically also their weakness."

I agree with Jesse, and made a similar point, which is that Taleb, and I'm a big fan, seemed to put actual culprits into the bystander dock.

I love "Too Big To Jail", although I do believe that, as the S & L Crisis had Charles Keating and a few others, there will be a few high profile prosecutions to make everyone feel fine with most of the guilty getting off.

I do not want that to happen, which is why, on my blog, as Taleb has done, only I don't have his smarts or expertise, I believe that I have shown that these investments are not that complicated, at least as to understanding the risk, and that fraud, negligence, fiduciary mismanagement, and collusion, should be vigorously prosecuted where they are found. That's the main reason that I don't like Systemic and Mechanistic Explanations. They have a bad habit of being used to exonerate criminals.

As long as I'm at Jesse's, I think I'll join Burke for a cup of java:


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