Showing posts with label R.Roberts. Show all posts
Showing posts with label R.Roberts. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

We don't have a lot of evidence on either side that is reliable.

TO BE NOTED: From Cafe Hayek: A good post that I basically agree with: Very fair:

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What Keynes really meant

Russell Roberts

Over at this bloggingheads conversation with Arnold Klings, some commenters thought we weren't fair to Keynes. Here is the response I posted there:

What did Keynes really mean? It's hard to say. His masterwork is a bit opaque and has been interpreted by many generations of acolytes.

In the current environment, we are told that consumers aren't spending so aggregate demand has fallen. (This is typically discussed as if the reason for this drop is irrelevant). Therefore government must step in as the spender of last resort. This was the defense of the so-called stimulus package of $787 billion. Those who defended it did not defend it on the merits of what was in it, but rather simply on its magnitude. And many of those defenders (including Paul Krugman and Robert Reich) said it was not big enough.

Their basic argument is Keynesian in nature—that aggregate demand, C+I+G, must be boosted up to its former level and that this can be achieved through an increase in G. And according to the Administration (and the study it produced written by Jared Bernstein and Christina Romer), every dollar of government spending would produce 1.57 (or was it 1.54?) dollars of income.

The presumption is that it does not matter what G is spent on. The most important thing is to get spending into people's hands so that they will in turn spend it and the multiplier will kick in.

The presumption is that the multiplier is a constant. It does not matter how G is financed. It does not matter what G is spent on. It does not matter why C is down. G just needs to go up. This is silly pseudo-science.

The presumption is that if G goes up, C will stay unchanged. This ignores any possibility that people will be aware that their taxes are going to go up very dramatically in the future and they will do nothing in response.

The presumption is that the borrowing or printing of money to finance the increase in G will have no effect on aggregate demand.

The presumption is that the people who get the money from the government will spend it rather than save it.

These last points are empirical questions. Actual estimates of the multiplier are all over the map. We don't have a lot of evidence on either side that is reliable( NB DON ). Anecdotal evidence is generally restricted to World War II on the encouraging side and Japan's recent experience on the discouraging side.

I have argued that economists generally came down on one side or the other of the stimulus package based not on their economic understanding but on their political and philosophical biases. I still believe that. I think we're in macroeconomically uncharted territory.

Interested viewers might also enjoy this debate between Brad DeLong and Michele Boldrin. Boldrin's also argues that simply increasing G is not sufficient to induce recovery.

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Monday, December 22, 2008

"what Building Tomorrow has been able to accomplish and the challenges and rewards of being a social entrepreneur"

Russell Roberts on Cafe Hayek with a nice post:

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Building schools in Uganda

Russell Roberts

The latest episode of EconTalk is an interview with George Srour, founder of Building Tomorrow, a non-profit that builds schools in Africa. He talks about what Building Tomorrow has been able to accomplish and the challenges and rewards of being a social entrepreneur. These pictures are what got me interested in talking to Srour."

Here's the link, which I will keep on my list:

http://www.buildingtomorrow.org/site/home/

Sunday, November 16, 2008

"When no one knows how the rules of the game are going to change — and they seem to change from week to week — who wants to take a risk?"

Here's a good post by Russell Roberts of Cafe Hayek:

"But we're also going to wait and see what the government's going to do next. Nobody knows, and that evidently includes the secretary of the treasury.

When no one knows how the rules of the game are going to change — and they seem to change from week to week — who wants to take a risk? Who wants to borrow money? Who wants to invest? Business and consumers are hunkering down, waiting for the storm of change to pass.

The problem isn't liquidity.

It's uncertainty.

Paulson doesn't realize that his erratic attempts at creating liquidity are creating the uncertainty that makes liquidity meaningless.

And his erratic moves elsewhere just add to the uncertainty. A few days ago, he announced that he was "exploring strategies" to use the TARP (the Troubled Asset Relief Program) for "foreclosure mitigation." Then came the news that, no, the FDIC would have to go it alone in helping mortgage workouts. No TARP for them.

I guess he's done exploring. At least until tomorrow.

As the TARP spreads, the cost will keep rising. Remember the talk about how the government might even profit from its $700 billion "investment?" (Insert hollow laugh here.)

I'd feel better if the money spent so far was helping. But there's no evidence that it is achieving what Paulson intends."

I certainly agree that uncertainty is a huge problem. For one thing, it has a political logic of its own, as I've argued about the consequences of seemingly arbitrary actions.

Here's an older post of some relevance:

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Monday, November 3, 2008

"The government’s mixed signals about rescuing financial institutions may have added to market turmoil in recent months"

Interesting post on the WSJ :

"The government’s mixed signals about rescuing financial institutions may have added to market turmoil in recent months, a Federal Reserve policy maker said Monday.

In remarks to a conference in Israel, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond President Jeffrey Lacker said the “disparate” government responses to potential failures at major firms created uncertainty and “may have made it difficult for market participants to forecast whether and in what form official support would be forthcoming for a given counterparty.”

“Shifts in expectations regarding official intervention may have added volatility to financial asset markets that were already roiled by an increasingly uncertain growth outlook,” Mr. Lacker said at a conference at Hebrew University of Jerusalem, according to his prepared text released by the Richmond Fed...

Many investors and Wall Street executives have sharply criticized the U.S. response — spearheaded by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke — for sending mixed signals during the crisis about which firms might get taxpayer support to prevent their failure. The Fed stepped forward with $30 billion in March to prevent the bankruptcy of Bear Stearns Cos. and facilitate its sale to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. Six months later in September, however, it declined to offer support to prevent the failure of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. Fed officials believe Lehman’s circumstances wouldn’t have allowed for a similar rescue.

The rescue of insurer American International Group Inc. just after Lehman’s failure added to criticism. Now, after Congress passed a $700 billion financial-sector bailout last month, banks are lining up to receive capital infusions from the Treasury."

Here's my comment:

” for sending mixed signals during the crisis about which firms might get taxpayer support to prevent their failure.”

This is the truth. Investors were counting on government intervention in this crisis. Any signal that this might not be forthcoming was seen as a looming disaster.

The government should have acted immediately and decisively, since it had given implicit and explicit guarantees that it would intervene in a crisis. The failure was also one of not having clear policies and guidelines of what would trigger intervention. Consequently, all moral hazard arguments have been fruitless.

In future, we need clear guidelines of government intervention, and moral hazard needs to be clear

Comment by Don the libertarian Democrat - November 3, 2008 at 10:06 am

Lacker does give a positive view of sorts:

“We have to give serious consideration to the idea that this episode of credit and financial market turmoil is part of the economy’s natural response to the sharp decline in the underlying fundamentals in housing finance,” Mr. Lacker said. “My sense is that the deterioration of economic conditions is playing a more prominent role in the tightening of credit terms right now than the direct effects of financial market turbulence.”

But Mr. Lacker said an economic recovery sometime in 2009 is a “reasonable expectation” because the Fed’s interest-rate target has come down to 1%; the major shocks that dampened economic activity — such as high energy prices — are subsiding; and the drag from the housing sector “seems likely to lessen in the next year.”

Call me a cock-eyed optimist, but I agree that we're moving past the crisis stage into the recession stage, and that is actually progress. Also, maybe it's the influence of Casey Mulligan, but I believe that things will begin to improve faster than many think possible.

The long term problems will still be there, but we will have an opportunity to right this ship.