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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

“That’s why they say it’s invaluable. It’s an infinite subsidy. It’s their franchise value.”

TO BE NOTED: From the NY Times:

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U.S. Program Lends a Hand to Banks, Quietly

Eager to escape the long arm of government, Goldman Sachs is preparing to return $10 billion in taxpayer funds as fast as the ink can dry on the check. But the bank, and a number of others, is quietly holding on to other forms of public support that come with virtually no strings attached.

Banks have been benefiting from an indirect subsidy adopted by the federal government at the height of the financial crisis last fall that allows them to issue their debt cheaply with the backing of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

That debt — more than $300 billion for the banking industry so far — helped otherwise cash-strained banks to keep their businesses running even when it was virtually impossible for other companies to raise funds. The program will continue to bolster scores of banks through at least the middle of 2012.

The value of the assistance, economists say, is incalculable, because it helped keep participating banks alive despite the panic sown in financial markets after Lehman Brothers collapsed.

“I don’t know how you measure that subsidy,” said Mark Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com. “That’s why they say it’s invaluable. It’s an infinite subsidy. It’s their franchise value.”

The program has allowed Goldman to issue $28 billion in debt over the last six months. The debt totals more than $40 billion each for Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase, and $23 billion for Morgan Stanley.

The F.D.I.C. program does not come with the compensation and other regulatory conditions attached by Congress to the $700 billion bailout, but it charges the banks a small fee. Rather than relying on a direct infusion of taxpayer money, the agency is helping the banks raise debt from private investors by endowing them with the equivalent of an AAA rating. If any of the banks relying on the guarantees ran into trouble, the F.D.I.C. would make good on those bonds.

But as Goldman and other banks look to escape the restrictions attached to the bailout, it is unclear if the government might add rules to programs like the F.D.I.C.’s.

“It is definitely a risk,” said David Trone, an analyst with Fox-Pitt Kelton, who noted that lawmakers could at any time decide to change the rules, just as they retroactively added tighter rules on compensation to banks that accepted taxpayer money.

Goldman was the first bank to take advantage of the debt program when it was introduced in November, when the financial crisis made it nearly impossible for companies to raise cash. Morgan Stanley and Citigroup were quick to follow. More than 119 debt deals have been issued with the F.D.I.C.’s backing, according to Dealogic. Larger banks are using the program more than smaller ones, because they have capital markets businesses that depend on financing in the public markets.

Bank executives are quick to acknowledge that the program was critical to their survival.

“We would have had a real problem in the capital markets,” said David A. Viniar, the chief financial officer of Goldman. “The market shut down.”

Now Goldman is likely to be the first large bank to test the grip of the government. Last week, Goldman formally requested permission to exit part of the Troubled Asset Relief Program, the initiative that injected taxpayer money directly into the banks and has received far greater attention.

Goldman on Tuesday raised $5 billion in new common stock to help pay back the $10 billion it received under TARP, raising the possibility that it will become the first large institution to do so. Mr. Trone, the analyst with Fox-Pitt Kelton, said he knew of a number of investors who planned to buy Goldman’s stock, once the bank returns the TARP funds.

“We would view any institution that pays back TARP has having a material competitive advantage,” Mr. Trone said.

But some are pointing to Goldman’s F.D.I.C.-backed debt as a reason the bank should remain under government scrutiny.

“Money is fungible, and if Goldman didn’t have access to the cheap guaranteed government money through the debt program, it would have been less easy for them to come up with the funds to repay TARP,” said Jeremy Bulow, an economist at the Graduate School of Business at Stanford.

Mr. Viniar said in an interview that Goldman had no indication that lawmakers intended to add rules to banks who issued the government-backed debt. And he said that the backing was not all that different from insurance that the F.D.I.C. provides on deposits in banks.

From his perspective, the rules surrounding TARP are related to its use of taxpayer money, Mr. Viniar said. As for the debt, he noted that Goldman and the other banks borrowed from private investors, not the government.

The F.D.I.C. is charging banks for its backing, and has already pulled in nearly $7 billion in fees intended to be used to cover defaults on any of the bank debt issued in the program, should a bank collapse.

But given the huge amounts of debt issued by Goldman, JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley alone, any major collapse could breach the F.D.I.C.’s reserves. The agency has asked Congress for authority to borrow more money from the Treasury in case of an emergency.

William M. Isaac, who ran the agency in the 1980s, pointed out that the F.D.I.C. had the ability to run programs like the debt program because it had charged banks fees for decades.

“The banking industry has funded the F.D.I.C. for 75 years,” said Mr. Isaac, who is now a managing director at LECG, a consulting firm. “That is why the F.D.I.C. has the ability to do this.”

Tuesday, April 14, 2009

It made money taking advantage of the wide difference between buying and selling prices in those markets.

TO BE NOTED: From the FT:

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Goldman amasses $164bn war chest

By Greg Farrell and Francesco Guerrera in New York

Published: April 14 2009 18:39 | Last updated: April 14 2009 20:43

Goldman Sachs has amassed a war chest of $164bn in cash and liquid assets that could be used to buy distressed securities and loans as its rivals clear their balance sheets, Goldman’s chief financial officer said on Tuesday.

David Viniar spoke as the bank completed the sale of $5bn in common stock – at $123 per share – which it plans to use to pay back some $10bn from the government’s troubled asset relief programme.

The sale price represented a 5.5 per cent discount to Monday’s close. Goldman’s shares closed down more than 11 per cent at $115.11.

Other banks were weaker too, with Morgan Stanley down 12 per cent as investors speculated it could raise funds when it announced results next week.

Morgan Stanley declined to comment.

Speaking a day after Goldman reported $1.81bn in first-quarter earnings, Mr Viniar said the bank’s liquid assets, which rose more than $50bn in the first quarter, could also be put to defensive use if the crisis worsened.

Goldman’s earnings were helped by a record $6.5bn in revenues in fixed income, commodities and currencies (FICC) activities. It made money taking advantage of the wide difference between buying and selling prices in those markets.

“The environment in the first quarter was such that . . . there were so many opportunities in truly liquid assets that there was no need to use liquidity to buy illiquid assets and there weren’t a lot of good illiquid assets for sale,” Mr Viniar said, adding that strong liquidity made sense “from a defensive and offensive point of view”.

He acknowledged the liquidity position was a drag on profits, but said in the current environment “prudence is the better path”. But he noted activity in the capital markets was gaining momentum, pointing to two dozen equity offerings last week.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Viniar said Goldman wanted to pay back the $10bn in Tarp funds as soon as possible so it could pay bankers, invest abroad and hire foreign workers without generating criticism it was using taxpayer money for such purposes.

However, Mr Viniar told investors that repaying Tarp would still allow Goldman to keep issuing government-guaranteed debt.

“It’s important to run our business the way it ought to be run,” he said. “Not only is it important to be able to compensate deserving executives with bonuses much larger than those currently allowed by regulators, he said, but “we don’t want to have to worry about who we hire with an H-1B visa [for skilled foreign workers]”.

Goldman Sachs recorded a gain “over time” on the value of the hedges it bought to guard against a default on AIG

TO BE NOTED: From Bloomberg:

"Goldman Sachs’s Viniar ‘Mystified’ by Interest in AIG (Update1)

By Christine Harper

April 14 (Bloomberg) -- David Viniar, Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s chief financial officer, said he’s “mystified” by the interest investors and government officials have shown in the bank’s trading relationship with American International Group Inc.

“They’re one of thousands and thousands and thousands of counterparties and the results of any trading with AIG are completely immaterial to what we do,” Viniar said today in an interview. “I am mystified by this fascination with AIG.”

Goldman Sachs, the most-profitable securities firm before converting to a bank last year, received more cash from AIG after the Federal Reserve rescued it last year than any other counterparty. The company has said it was insured against any losses from AIG and it didn’t benefit from the government’s rescue of the New York-based insurer. The Treasury Department’s chief watchdog for the financial rescue program is investigating whether AIG paid more than necessary to banks.

Viniar told analysts today that any profits related to AIG in the January-to-March quarter “rounded to zero,” as most of the transactions were unwound before the end of the year. In an interview, he also said profits in December weren’t significant.

‘Rounded to Zero’

“I would never tell you that we didn’t book any profit, I don’t even know,” he said. “I couldn’t tell you with any counterparty that we booked zero, but I could tell you it rounded to zero.”

After AIG was rescued by the U.S. from collapse last year, banks that bought credit-default swaps got $22.4 billion in collateral and $27.1 billion in payments to retire contracts, the insurer said last month.

Neil Barofsky, special inspector general for the government’s Troubled Asset Relief Program, began an audit two weeks ago into whether there were attempts by AIG or the government to reduce the payments, according to an April 3 letter to Representative Elijah Cummings. The Maryland Democrat requested the probe last month along with 26 other members of Congress.

Lawmakers, frustrated with the cost of an AIG bailout that has expanded three times, have asked why about $50 billion was paid after the initial September rescue to banks that bought credit-default swaps from the firm. The audit will reveal who made “critical decisions” regarding the payments and provide an explanation for the actions, Barofsky said.

‘Misperceptions’

Viniar held a conference call on March 20 to answer questions about the firm’s trading relationship with AIG and to “clarify certain misperceptions.”

When AIG was rescued, Goldman Sachs had $10 billion of exposure to the insurance company that was offset with $7.5 billion of collateral as well as credit-default swaps that would have paid off in the event of an AIG bankruptcy, Viniar said on the March 20 call.

He also said on the call that Goldman Sachs recorded a gain “over time” on the value of the hedges it bought to guard against a default on AIG, even though the government enabled the insurer to honor its obligations. In today’s interview, he said those gains were booked “from 2006 to now” and that any gains booked in the first quarter “would have been very, very small.”

Goldman Sachs reported late yesterday that it earned $1.81 billion, or $3.39 per share, in the first quarter on record revenue from trading fixed-income, currencies and commodities. The firm also raised $5 billion by selling stock at $123 per share, a 5.5 percent discount from yesterday’s closing price.

To contact the reporter on this story: Christine Harper in New York at charper@bloomberg.net."