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Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Ben Bernanke presented testimony this morning in which he seconded some of Wolf’s points

From The Bellows:

"What’s Bernanke Getting At?

As you know, I’ve been following the ongoing debate over the extent to which markets are nervous about American government debt levels, which may or may not betoken inflation to come and/or a crowding out of private investment and/or a dollar run. Martin Wolf has a relatively new column up which, in my view, levels the arguments of those like Niall Ferguson and John Taylor, who see disaster at the doorstep. As Wolf says, there is very little in interest rates to indicate a fear of runaway inflation or a crowding out of private investment.

Ben Bernanke presented testimony this morning in which he seconded some of Wolf’s points — most notably, he suggested that slack in the system would persist for some time, making near-term inflation extremely unlikely. But he also attributed the recent rise in long-term Treasury to concern over deficits, at least in part. And, he had this to say:

Certainly, our economy and financial markets face extraordinary near-term challenges, and strong and timely actions to respond to those challenges are necessary and appropriate. Nevertheless, even as we take steps to address the recession and threats to financial stability, maintaining the confidence of the financial markets requires that we, as a nation, begin planning now for the restoration of fiscal balance. Prompt attention to questions of fiscal sustainability is particularly critical because of the coming budgetary and economic challenges associated with the retirement of the baby-boom generation and continued increases in medical costs. The recent projections from the Social Security and Medicare trustees show that, in the absence of programmatic changes, Social Security and Medicare outlays will together increase from about 8-1/2 percent of GDP today to 10 percent by 2020 and 12-1/2 percent by 2030. With the ratio of debt to GDP already elevated, we will not be able to continue borrowing indefinitely to meet these demands.

Addressing the country’s fiscal problems will require a willingness to make difficult choices. In the end, the fundamental decision that the Congress, the Administration, and the American people must confront is how large a share of the nation’s economic resources to devote to federal government programs, including entitlement programs. Crucially, whatever size of government is chosen, tax rates must ultimately be set at a level sufficient to achieve an appropriate balance of spending and revenues in the long run. In particular, over the longer term, achieving fiscal sustainability–defined, for example, as a situation in which the ratios of government debt and interest payments to GDP are stable or declining, and tax rates are not so high as to impede economic growth–requires that spending and budget deficits be well controlled.

I’m not quite sure how to interpret this. On the one hand, it seems clear that reduced debt levels would make his life easier, and politically speaking, it will be difficult (in my view) to pass additional deficit-funded measures in the short-term without identifying some clear new revenue stream to be tapped to eventually pay for the program. On the other hand, Bernanke sure does seem to be making his policy preferences known in ways I don’t much like. This testimony will be ammunition for the Fergusons out there, who have failed to find much support in bond markets. If it seems clear that current deficits aren’t excessively inflationary and aren’t crowding out private investment, and new stimulus — in the form of unemployment benefit extensions, say — is deemed necessary to prevent the economy from tipping once more into a rapid rate of decline, then I’d like the government to have a free hand to do what needs to be done. Instead, we’ll have a bunch of blue dogs out there waving the text above.

The bottom line is this — the issue of long-run budget sustainability is actually of crucial importance. It should be part of the ongoing policy conversation. It should not be the beginning and end of the conversation, given the broader problem of economic weakness. But that’s increasingly the way these discussions are playing out. Bernanke must have known that his take on deficits would be splashed across news sites everywhere, reinforcing a meme that’s been pushed by conservatives in recent weeks. He must have known that his advisement that debt levels could be a major problem in the future would be interpreted by the press as a belief that debt levels are a major problem right now.

For someone with his background, and his awareness of the history of the Great Depression, I find this to be a very confusing and unfortunate move."

Me:

  1. Don the libertarian Democrat Says:

    In order for QE to work, people must believe that Inflation is coming. That’s more important than worrying about Hyperinflation or its trumpeters, at least at this point. What he’s doing and saying makes sense.


  1. Don the libertarian Democrat Says:

    I should have said that we want people to believe that inflation is coming down the road a ways. The trumpeters are serving a useful purpose, by going on about runaway inflation down the road. Right now, we want low interest rates. The current spreads are the desired result that we’re looking for. That’s why QE is working.

Thursday, May 7, 2009

emerge from a sober and considered piece of legislation

From The Bellows:

Strawman Constructed; Point Missed

Simon Johnson and James Kwak are smart guys, but this is just ridiculous:

Back in February, America was mired in a public debate over the word “nationalization” and what it meant for our banking system, with contributions by Nobel Laureates Paul Krugman and Joseph Stiglitz, former and current Fed officials Alan Greenspan, Alan Blinder, and Thomas Hoenig, and administration figures Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers, and even Barack (”Sweden had like five banks“) Obama, among others. On a substantive level, the debate was over whether large and arguably insolvent banks should be allowed to fail and go into government conservatorship, as happens routinely with small insolvent banks. Opponents of this view who wanted to keep the banks afloat in their current form, including the current administration, beat off this challenge by calling it nationalization (more precisely, by demonizing government control of banks). Perversely, however, what we got instead was increasing co-dependency between the government and the large banks, as well as increasing influence of the government over the banks, and vice-versa. And according to the market, the banks should be quite happy with this outcome.

Emphasis mine. Thomas Hoenig has been making a similar point, and it’s just absurd. For the most part, those arguing against nationalization weren’t doing so on the basis that it was nationalization, full stop. They were doing so because they felt, quite reasonably, that nationalization was likely to be extremely complicated, risky, costly, logistically or legally impossible, or some other collection of reasons. I don’t see what good it does these guys to fail to engage the legitimate arguments being made by those on the other side.

What’s also interesting is that in the piece excerpted above is a point they make that has also been argued by Thomas Hoenig and others (Steve Waldman, for instance) — that the big problem with not nationalizing is that it brings the banking sector through the crisis without any significant reforms taking place. Now, I understand this outlook. Our largest banks dominate the system, and breaking up Bank of America and Citigroup would strike a huge blow for the cause of too-big-to-fail is too-big-to-exist and against moral hazard. But that actually leaves most of the difficult work undone. Other, solvent banks would swoop in and take the exposed market share, and the fear of god would eventually be forgot.

What we actually want to see are some fundamental changes to the regulatory system that will constrain behavior and leverage at all firms, along with new oversight capabilities and responsibilities. Certainly, I think that explicit nationalization authority for large and complex institutions should be a part of such regulatory reform, but I think that that authority should, along with the rest of the changes, emerge from a sober and considered piece of legislation. I don’t want my reform to come in the heat of battle.

There is obviously a risk that when conditions improve the impetus for reform will be lost. But I think there’s a pretty substantial window in which reform can take place. It’s more important to do regulatory reform right than to do it quickly. I don’t see a vague concern that in the next year anger at and worries about the banking system will evaporate as a good reason to undertake a tricky and risky nationalization now.

Me:

  1. Don the libertarian Democrat Says:

    Is there some reason that the following plan is a priori crap or pr?

    http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/reports/032509%20legislation.pdf

    This Act may be cited as the “Resolution Authority for Systemically Significant Financial Companies Act of 2009.”

    As near as I can tell, this is what people are calling for.

Monday, May 4, 2009

But why does that mean that the financial sector should have grown commensurately?

From Reuters:

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Felix Salmon

a good kind of contagious

May 4th, 2009

The inefficient financial sector

Posted by: Felix Salmon
Tags: banking, economics

Jim Surowiecki thinks that the rise in the size of the financial sector — at least until this decade — makes perfect sense:

The desire to bring back the boring, small banking industry of the nineteen-fifties is understandable. Unfortunately, the only way to do that would be to bring back the economy of the fifties, too. Banking was boring then because the economy was boring. The financial sector’s most important job is channelling money from investors to businesses that need capital for worthwhile investment. But in the postwar era there wasn’t much need for this…

The corporate world was transformed by revolutionary developments in information technology and by the emergence of new industries like cable television, wireless, and biotechnology. This meant that the economy became, and has remained, far more competitive, while corporate performance became far more volatile. In the nineteen-eighties, companies moved in and out of the Fortune 500 twice as fast as they had in the fifties and sixties. Suddenly, there were lots of new companies with big appetites for outside capital, which they needed in order to keep growing. And it was Wall Street that helped them get it… Thomas Philippon, an economist at N.Y.U., has shown that most of the increase in the size of the financial sector in this period can be accounted for by companies’ need for new capital.

I’m sure it’s true that the economy’s capital-raising needs grew sharply between the 1950s and the 1990s. But why does that mean that the financial sector should have grown commensurately? After all, there was just as much “innovation” going on in finance as there was elsewhere; the technology revolution was in many ways driven by the needs of the financial sector. Wouldn’t you expect, in that case, that financial companies would have become more efficient at intermediating between companies and investors? Shouldn’t it have been much easier and much cheaper to issue a billion-dollar bond in 1998 than it was in 1968?

Famously there was something quite cartel-like during the dot-com boom, when the big investment banks all managed to continue to charge an eye-watering 7% underwriting fee for IPOs despite the fact that most of the companies pretty much sold themselves, and similarly-sized bond issues were coming to market at the same time for underwriting fees of about 0.1% or less. And when the likes of Bill Hambrecht tried to break the big banks’ iron grip on the market, they generally failed pretty miserably.

Even so, one would hope and expect that between sell-side productivity gains and a rise in the sophistication of the buy side, any increase in America’s financing needs would be met without any rise in the percentage of the economy taken up by the financial sector. That it wasn’t is an indication, on its face, that the financial sector in aggregate signally failed to improve at doing its job over the post-war decades — a failure which was then underlined by the excesses of the current decade and the subsequent global economic meltdown.

On this view, the seven-, eight-, and nine-figure salaries pulled down by Wall Street folks aren’t a sign of how efficient they are at doing their jobs, but are rather a sign of how inefficient their companies are. As Ryan Avent says:

When you have a few people taking home billions, that’s a sign of either very good luck or some brilliant new strategy. When you have a lot of people in finance taking home billions, then something has gone badly wrong. Either something unsustainable is building, or there are some serious inefficiencies in the market."

Me:

I believe that the growth of the financial sector is due to the growth in government backing for it. Take Citi, or whatever the hell it’s called now. How many bailouts or government subsidized mergers has it had?

The financial sector has grown as implicit and explicit guarantees by the government backing it have grown. And, please, no more about free markets or deregulation. What we had was increased leverage backed up by government guarantees.

I’m for Narrow/Limited Banking precisely because this happened right in front of everybody’s eyes, and yet few people, apparently, outside of the people investing based upon it, knew that this was our system. I remember the phrase “Too big to fail” being from the S & L Crisis. Since then, we’ve had a policy of “Too gigantic to fail”. Zero learning curve.

We can’t be trusted. Since I want a market economy, I feel that we need a secure and trusted base upon which to rest it. Otherwise, next time, it will be “How’d they get too big, connected, important, powerful, to fail again?”

The rise in finance had less to do with innovation than subsidization.

- Posted by Don the libertarian Democrat

Friday, May 1, 2009

All right then! Back to blogging; the world’s not going to stop on my account.

From The Bellows:

"Moving On

Well, I didn’t think I’d be back here so soon.

Not for the first time in my life, and not for the last, my grand and best-laid plans failed to work out as I’d hoped. The demise of Portfolio is a major disappointment, but I’m working to keep it all in perspective. I’d give my side of the story if there were much of a story to tell, but there really isn’t. I knew there were risks going in; after I’d accepted the job but before I began, Conde Nast laid off a number of writers at Ars Technica, among them my friend Julian Sanchez, and I had a good, long thought about whether I was putting myself in a bad situation. In the end, I decided there was no way I could let such an opportunity pass me by, based on some fear that I might wind up laid off. It was the right decision, and I’d make it again.

I suspect that someone in the organization knew about the potential shutdown when they approved my hire, but I don’t think it was the editors at Portfolio who orchestrated the recruitment. I don’t have any bad feelings toward them, and I wish them good luck finding new jobs.

What next for me? I have had some interesting discussions this week, and I am optimistic that I’ll find myself in a good place fairly soon, but I’m not yet to decide anything just yet. The past few weeks have been a whirlwind, and I’m going to mull things over for a few more days to try and determine just what I want to accomplish with my next step. In the mean time, I’ll be posting a few things here so that I don’t get too rusty.

Many thanks to all the folks who offered support this week. The news was heartbreaking, and it made a difference to hear such great things from you all.

All right then! Back to blogging; the world’s not going to stop on my account."

Me:

  1. Don the libertarian Democrat Says:

    Glad you’re posting again. Just to warn you though, the world does stop on my account.

Wednesday, April 29, 2009

So let me be clear: for sixteen months now I have been a Swedish-model advocate who wants to guarantee bank bondholders

TO BE NOTED: Grasping Reality with Both Hands:

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Tim Geithner and the Swedish Model

James Surowiecki:

The Sweden Example: The Balance Sheet: Ryan Avent beats me to the punch by pointing out the most important part of today’s Times’ story on Tim Geithner, namely that in the summer of 2008, after the collapse of Bear Stearns but before the meltdown of Lehman Brothers, Geithner proposed having the government guarantee the debts of all U.S. banks. The plan was shot down as politically untenable, but, as Ryan points out, had it been put into effect, we would most likely not have seen Lehman go under or had to deal with the incredibly negative consequences of that failure. More important, perhaps, by reducing the threat of panicked runs on bank debt (since those debts would have been guaranteed), such a guarantee would also have made it easier for regulators and banks to deal in a transparent fashion with the toxic-asset problem. That’s why the very first step in Sweden’s much-admired solution to its banking crisis in the early nineteen-nineties, was, yes, a guarantee of all bank debt. As one of the regulators involved in that effort put it, the guarantee “was provided in order to restore confidence and to ease the immediate pressure on banks,” by ensuring “the stability of the payment system and to safeguard the supply of credit.”

Given all this, Ryan is perplexed that Yves Smith... dismisses Geithner’s proposal... her conviction that any plan to deal with the banking system has to require bank bondholders to take a major hit. In other words, for Smith, the Swedish solution is not the right one. Nationalizing the banks, and wiping out the shareholders, isn’t enough: you have to impose significant pain on the banks’ debtholders, too. Lots of nationalization advocates believe that a debt guarantee is a bad idea. But one of the things that’s made the debate over nationalization confusing is that many of these same people, while arguing that bank debtholders should take a hit, also say that what the U.S. should do is emulate Sweden.... [T]his doesn’t make any sense. At the heart of the Swedish solution was the guarantee of all bank debt, ensuring that bondholders would not take a hit. And the Swedes, at least, thought that guarantee was essential to making their plan work.... [N]ationalization supporters should be clear: if they want to cram down the debtholders, then they don’t want the U.S. to follow the Swedish model. You cannot “Go Swedish” and “wipe out bond holders” at the same time.

There are nationalization advocates who really do want the U.S. to emulate Sweden, including most notably Paul Krugman, who’s said, “Sweden guaranteed all [bank liabilities]. If forced to say, I would go the Swedish route; but of course we can’t do that unless we’re prepared to put all troubled banks in receivership.” But many supporters of nationalization are just invoking Sweden in order to prove that there’s a historical precedent for successful nationalization, while at the same time arguing that the U.S. should reject a crucial part...

So let me be clear: for sixteen months now I have been a Swedish-model advocate who wants to guarantee bank bondholders. I thought and think it is the best practical road out of this mess."

Monday, April 27, 2009

by ensuring “the stability of the payment system and to safeguard the supply of credit.”

TO BE NOTED: From The New Yorker:

"The Sweden Example

Ryan Avent beats me to the punch by pointing out the most important part of today’s Times’ story on Tim Geithner, namely that in the summer of 2008, after the collapse of Bear Stearns but before the meltdown of Lehman Brothers, Geithner proposed having the government guarantee the debts of all U.S. banks. The plan was shot down as politically untenable, but, as Ryan points out, had it been put into effect, we would most likely not have seen Lehman go under or had to deal with the incredibly negative consequences of that failure. More important, perhaps, by reducing the threat of panicked runs on bank debt (since those debts would have been guaranteed), such a guarantee would also have made it easier for regulators and banks to deal in a transparent fashion with the toxic-asset problem. That’s why the very first step in Sweden’s much-admired solution to its banking crisis in the early nineteen-nineties, was, yes, a guarantee of all bank debt. As one of the regulators involved in that effort put it, the guarantee “was provided in order to restore confidence and to ease the immediate pressure on banks,” by ensuring “the stability of the payment system and to safeguard the supply of credit.”

Given all this, Ryan is perplexed that Yves Smith, in her post today on the Times article, dismisses Geithner’s proposal as just another attempt to give Wall Street a handout. In part, this could be because Smith thinks that, in the absence of a systematic plan to deal with toxic assets (which we don’t know if Geithner had), guaranteeing all bank debt would have allowed banks to engage in more risky behavior, knowing that taxpayers would foot the bill. But I think what’s really driving Smith’s attack on Geithner’s proposal is her conviction that any plan to deal with the banking system has to require bank bondholders to take a major hit. In other words, for Smith, the Swedish solution is not the right one. Nationalizing the banks, and wiping out the shareholders, isn’t enough: you have to impose significant pain on the banks’ debtholders, too.

Lots of nationalization advocates believe that a debt guarantee is a bad idea. But one of the things that’s made the debate over nationalization confusing is that many of these same people, while arguing that bank debtholders should take a hit, also say that what the U.S. should do is emulate Sweden. Henry Blodget, for instance, has argued that that we should follow “a tried and true way of fixing banks: The Swedish Model,” and yet he also insists that we should stop bailing out bank bondholders. And Barry Ritholtz has written that when it comes to dealing with the banks we should “Go Swedish. Wipe out shareholders, bond holders, and all the bad debt and junk paper these firms hold.”

Needless to say, this doesn’t make any sense. At the heart of the Swedish solution was the guarantee of all bank debt, ensuring that bondholders would not take a hit. And the Swedes, at least, thought that guarantee was essential to making their plan work. In the U.S. context, maybe we should follow a different approach, but nationalization supporters should be clear: if they want to cram down the debtholders, then they don’t want the U.S. to follow the Swedish model. You cannot “Go Swedish” and “wipe out bond holders” at the same time.

There are nationalization advocates who really do want the U.S. to emulate Sweden, including most notably Paul Krugman, who’s said, “Sweden guaranteed all [bank liabilities]. If forced to say, I would go the Swedish route; but of course we can’t do that unless we’re prepared to put all troubled banks in receivership.” But many supporters of nationalization are just invoking Sweden in order to prove that there’s a historical precedent for successful nationalization, while at the same time arguing that the U.S. should reject a crucial part of what made that precedent work. So the news that Geithner wanted the U.S. to take a first step on the Swedish path is unlikely to change their view of him. If anything, it’ll just confirm their assumption that he’s not willing to do what’s necessary.

Guaranteeing all the bank debt was, of course, one of the key ingredients of the Swedish bank rescue so beloved by fans of nationalization

From Portfolio:


Apr 27 2009 9:26AM EDT

The Times' Rorshach Geithner Story

The New York Times has provided a handy blogging point for today in the form of a long piece on the relationships Tim Geithner formed while head of the New York Fed. The story is based in part on the results of a Times FOIA request, for the contents of Geithner's daily calendar while at the bank, and bloggers have primarily approached the story as a search for potentially nefarious activities. As examples, we see Paul Kedrosky concluding that there's no real "smoking gun," and Yves Smith writing that the story is far too kind, as it mysteriously excises all the times Geithner was scheduled to dine on babies and puppies in the company of Satan and AIG executives.

For the life of me, I don't know why we're not spending at least a little more time on the opening anecdote:

Last June, with a financial hurricane gathering force, Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr. convened the nation's economic stewards for a brainstorming session. What emergency powers might the government want at its disposal to confront the crisis? he asked.

Timothy F. Geithner, who as president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank oversaw many of the nation's most powerful financial institutions, stunned the group with the audacity of his answer. He proposed asking Congress to give the president broad power to guarantee all the debt in the banking system, according to two participants, including Michele Davis, then an assistant Treasury secretary.

The proposal quickly died amid protests that it was politically untenable because it could put taxpayers on the hook for trillions of dollars.

Smith notes the line and proceeds to throw of a line constituting one of the most epic examples of point missing in recent memory:

The story fails to note this was almost assuredly the most bank friendly program possible.

To begin with, that's not even true. The most bank friendly program possible is handing the banks a lot of money with no strings attached. But how does Smith miss that this would not only have been a very smart and prescient move, but it might also have laid the groundwork for a much tougher bank policy? Guaranteeing all the bank debt was, of course, one of the key ingredients of the Swedish bank rescue so beloved by fans of nationalization. Smith just assumes Geithner is looking to help his Wall Street buddies, but he might just as easily have been reading directly from the Swedes' playbook.

Moreover, this move would have entirely changed the calculus in September. It would have made the government much more reluctant to let Lehman fail, which I believe we can agree would have been a good thing. Had they nonetheless decided that Lehman should be allowed to go down, in the knowledge that the government would have to make the debtholders whole, then we would have avoided most of the negative effects of the actual Lehman collapse. No money market fund would break the buck. No freeze in commercial paper markets would have resulted. And no emergency rush to TARP would have followed. Correspondingly, no intense fear of bank failures or nationalizations would have cast its shadow over all subsequent decisions.

This should be getting more attention, and it should also be causing Geithner-haters to rethink what they think they know about the man -- about his timidity, subservience, and allegiances. But it's already clear that it won't."

Me:

"Guaranteeing all the bank debt was, of course, one of the key ingredients of the Swedish bank rescue so beloved by fans of nationalization."

I'm sorry that you're out of work. For one thing, I agree with you on this, and have been posting a similar view. You are correct about the Swedish Plan, which I have been for since Sept. It included a complete govt guarantee. As well, only a complete govt guarantee, which we've had implicitly now for a good spell, can stop Debt-Deflation.

I can only assume that people attacking you aren't for a Swedish Type solution or aren't afraid of Debt-Deflation. Fine.

One other point: An explicit guarantee on Freddie/Fannie would have stopped the flight from Agencies, for example, by China, which added to the fear and aversion to risk. We also wouldn't have had Lehman, a dreadful decision.

Saturday, April 25, 2009

He bore it remarkably well, speaking and occasionally smiling, and parrying questions from the gathered reporters.

From Portfolio:



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Notes From a Press Conference Naif

I was in attendance at Tim Geithner's press conference yesterday, at which he spoke briefly about the G7 Ministers meeting and answered a few questions. I hope it isn't too damaging to my credibility as an economics writer to say it was the first time I saw the secretary in person. He deviated pretty significantly from the text we'd been given beforehand -- a friend said you could almost see him reading ahead of himself and editing out any potentially newsworthy word or phrase -- but it didn't much affect his delivery, which I found both choppy and deliberative, but quite confident.

I didn't expect him to make news, and in fact he didn't. A few of his statements particularly interested me. He repeatedly reiterated his understanding that a banking fix is crucial to recovery, and that time and again countries have suffered unnecessarily from acting too tentatively to fix their banks. He's clearly not ignorant of the arguments being made by his challengers in the economics and finance press, but he seems to think that Treasury's policy trajectory is sufficient. Along those lines, when asked whether he was at all concerned about Barney Frank's decision to go slow on a regulatory reform bill that would have included new powers for the government to take complex financial institutions into receivership, Geithner gave a resounding no. Whatever the Treasury's plans for the banking system in the wake of the stress tests, it would not seem to include the possibility of a "traditional" nationalization for a firm like Citigroup.

As a newcomer to such proceedings, it was very difficult for me not to stand up and demand of the secretary, "Look, just tell us what you actually think you'll have to do about Citi and Bank of America. Get real with us for a second. What's the plan! You must have something more than PPIP in the works." But I was able to restrain myself. I was momentarily struck a little woozy contemplating the weight of the responsibility on the secretary, however. The man is at the fulcrum of history, with the fates of hundreds of millions of lives hanging on his decisions. The pressure was almost visible; I could imagine it crumpling him up like a scrap piece of paper.

But it didn't. He bore it remarkably well, speaking and occasionally smiling, and parrying questions from the gathered reporters. After the show, the consensus among the press was pretty clear -- he's a real slick talker. Made me wonder for a minute if Geithner feels the weight of the job at all, or believes himself to be in control of it. I suppose that to function in the face of so daunting a task as his, you have to forget its magnitude and convince yourself you can manage it. Unjustifed overconfidence is the only way to do the job; to be constantly in tune with the scope of the disaster is to be paralyzed by fear. Forget humility. The humble never dare to take the reins."

Me:


I seem to be one of the few people defending Geithner. It's taking up so much of my time that I've been taking a pass on defending CDSs and CDOs for a spell.

The list of possible plans are all hybrid plans, including the US owning controlling interest. Because of that, all plans, including nationalization via controlling interest, are going to have the problems people keep worrying about: Conflict of Interest, Competing Incentives, etc. These problems are inherent in hybrids.

Now, I favor controlling interest, but I understand it's a mess. I simply feel it has the possibility of being better for the taxpayers. As for why Geithner keeps saying that we don't want to own banks, I'm with him. Seizure is one thing, but owning is another. For one thing, who are we going to sell these banks to going forward. What if only Wells Fargo, etc., want the banks we own? Will that be conflict of interest and collusion?

I'm for narrow/limited banking, and have favored seizure since September, but Geithner's doing a good job considering the problem he's been handed.

By the way, if we get controlling interest, I hope everyone understands that, just like Fannie/Freddie, the banks we control will be deemed government guaranteed, and investors will invest on that basis. Hello to the always fashionable implicit guarantees.

Got to go now. I still might set Felix Salmon straight about CDSs on his blog. We don't need him becoming the Acher of CDSs.

Friday, April 24, 2009

I'd say there's at least a bit of truth in all six

TO BE NOTED: From the Curious Capitalist:

"What's keeping Tim Geithner from being bolder?

I've been meaning to welcome Ryan Avent to his new gig at Portfolio.com (where he has replaced Felix Salmon). His musings over the past couple of days about why the Obama Administration is handling the banking crisis in such a tentative, unimpressive way provide a good opportunity. Here's one:

There is a popular idea that if only a charismatic figure had occupied the spot at Treasury, like Paul Volcker, then his confidence would have carried a better policy through Congress, but people forget that Paul Volcker didn't have to push his interest rate increases through a skeptical, angry, and often stupid legislature.

And another, referring to economist Simon Johnson's claim that a financial oligarchy has seized control of our government:

Johnson is right that the power of financial interests warped policy in recent decades, leading directly to this crisis. I just don't think it's correct to extend that argument to say that the Obama administration is primarily constrained by the will of the financial oligarchy.

I agree with Ryan on both these points, but they got me thinking about all the possible explanations for the Administration's go-slow approach (as opposed to seizing at least a few big banks and forcing everybody to take much bigger writedowns of bad assets than they have so far, which I think is what Johnson, Paul Krugman, and Joe Stiglitz all want). Here's what I came up with:

1. It's the proper course of action, because most banks will be able to earn their way out of their problems if given some time and forbearance by regulators. This is what people within the banking industry seem to think, and non-banker John Hempton has done a good job of articulating this view on his blog.

2. Seizure and writedowns might have been the proper course of action last year, but now that Treasury and the Federal Reserve have already put up trillions of dollars, backed by the very loans and securities that would have to be written down, it would be spectacularly costly to the government. It also might wipe out large swaths of the insurance industry, because insurers own lots of bank preferred shares and debt. So letting the banks slowly and fitfully earn their way out trouble is really the only alternative at this point. So sayeth David Goldman.

3. Treasury has just been getting all its ducks in a row to prepare to do eventually exactly what Johnson, Krugman, et. al. want it to do. This was a view I was pushing a few weeks back. I've gotten more skeptical since then.

4. Geithner and his pals in the White House would love to follow Johnson and Krugman's advice, but it would require hundreds of billions, maybe trillions of dollars more in up-front appropriations to keep the banking system solvent. And Congress is too "skeptical, angry, and often stupid" to approve anything like that.

5. Geithner and his pals in the White House would love to follow Johnson and Krugman's advice, but they are afraid the powerful banking industry will find ways to thwart them—through both lobbying and lending decisions.

6. Geithner and his pals in the White House are all willing tools of the financial oligarchy. Especially Larry Summers.

Am I missing anything? I'd say there's at least a bit of truth in all six. Nos. 1 and 4 are currently my favorites, but I reserve the right to change my mind.

Update: A well-informed reader adds explanation No. 7: That Geithner and his pals at the White House and in the bank regulatory agencies are afraid that if they overtly nationalize some banks, that would start a run to them from other banks that are wobbly."

Me:

  1. donthelibertariandemocrat Says:

    In this crisis, there are two things that are happening that I don't understand:
    1) There are a continuing litany of "Eureka!" moments in which a problem or issue that has already been addressed, possibly more than once, only under a slightly different guise, gets rediscovered. A virtual caravan of renascences.
    2) Politics is assumed to be more infested with lying and deception than normally is the case, causing people to view people's behavior as almost by definition deceptive. Hence, if a person explains their behavior by saying 'x', 'x' is the one explanation that won't work.
    On 1, we've had a brouhaha this week about the B of A and Merrill. This same issue, the government's forcing the B of A to take on Merrill, came up when Merrill's losses were announced earlier. The question arose as to whether the B of A was in trouble because of the merger, and whether or not the government should help save the B of A since the B of A helped save the system. In the UK, a similar issues arose concerning Lloyds merger with HBOS. If you think I'm joking, note this comment from Alphaville on March 9th:

    "I think you are "misunderestimating" the value to Lloyds (as opposed to HBOS). Lloyds was a perfectly safe bank until the government pressed Blank and Blank pressed Daniels into merging with HBOS, and their institutional shareholders backed the deal. When a banker is asked by his regulator to merge with another failed bank, he doesn't get many chances to refuse, and Lloyds had already turned down NR. Lloyds would have been entitled to think that the government was not giving them a hospital pass. The ever excellent Alex summed this point up last Thursday:

    http://alexmasterley.blogspot.com/2009/03/daniels-in-lions-den.html

    If the government is now seen as being generous to Lloyds and their shareholders, that is because it is now putting up some of the capital that should have been contributed when the merger took place. Having pretty much destroyed Lloyds in the merger, the government needs to re-capitalise the bank and compensate the LLoyds shareholders."

    Sound familiar. Just as Lloyds had turned down NR, the B of A had turned down Lehman.

    In both countries, the reason is that the modus for dealing with large insolvent financial concerns or banks was to merge them with other large banks or concerns with help from the government. All you have to do is look at the record with Lehman, Bears, Merrill,WaMu, etc. Bernanke and Bair have admitted this by saying that there was no plan for seizing a large insolvent bank or financial concern. They've admitted it. Geithner has already said that not having these powers was a mistake.

    That leaves receiving stock and running the company ourselves. What could go wrong with that? Well, for one thing, it is going to wipe out shareholders, whose banks merged with failing businesses at the behest of the government when there was no other plan. I wish the B of A would have merged with Lehman frankly. The point is clear: the mess we're in is a thicket of conflicting desires, intentions, incentives, promises, threats, etc.

    So, I vote for 1 - 5, and would probably add others. I agree with Johnson on the severity of the problem, but it's simply going to take a long time to disentangle and resolve.