Showing posts with label Currencies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Currencies. Show all posts

Thursday, May 7, 2009

A policy mistake made by some major central bank may bring inflation risks to the whole world

TO BE NOTED: From Alphaville:

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Quote du jour: fears of competitive devaluation

A policy mistake made by some major central bank may bring inflation risks to the whole world. As more and more economies are adopting unconventional monetary policies, such as quantitative easing, major currencies’ devaluation risks may rise.

- People’s Bank of China quarterly report, May 6 (via Bloomberg)

The PBC has been getting gradually more vocal in its criticisms of the Fed and the BoE. Things cant be great if you’ve got a mountain of US Treasuries, of course.

We’ll be watching to see what the BoE has to say about QE - if anything - at noon.

And:

"China Says Global Easing Policies Risk Devaluation (Update2)

By Sandy Hendry

May 6 (Bloomberg) -- Global central banks risk inflation, currency devaluation and a “big consolidation” in bond markets by pumping cash into their economies, the People’s Bank of China said in its quarterly monetary policy report.

The Federal Reserve and the Bank of England this year started quantitative easing, or printing money to buy government bonds, a policy that the Bank of Japan pioneered to revive its economy at the start of the decade. The European Central Bank’s 22-member board, which meets tomorrow, is split on whether it should buy financial assets to tackle its recession.

“A policy mistake made by some major central bank may bring inflation risks to the whole world,” China’s central bank said in the report today. “As more and more economies are adopting unconventional monetary policies, such as quantitative easing, major currencies’ devaluation risks may rise.”

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao expressed concern in March that the dollar will weaken, eroding the value of China’s holdings of Treasuries, as the U.S. borrows unprecedented amounts to spend its way out of recession. China’s Treasury holdings climbed 52 percent in 2008 and stood at about $744 billion as of the end of February, according to U.S. government data.

“In the medium and long term, as the financial markets stabilize and economies gradually recover, increasing inflation expectations, rising interest rates and central bank’s liquidity-absorbing operations may cause a ‘big’ consolidation in bond prices,” the central bank’s statement said.

Bernanke

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told the congressional Joint Economic Committee yesterday that inflation will “remain low” even as a recovery gets underway because businesses will be slow to build back production and payrolls.

ECB council member Athanasios Orphanides yesterday said the financial crisis needs “drastic” measures. Orphanides and fellow member George Provopoulos from Greece have indicated they may support cutting the target rate to less than 1 percent and buying debt to pump money into the economy.

ECB Executive Board member Lorenzo Bini Smaghi said on April 28 that policy makers should be “wary of the possible side-effects” of unconventional measures.

The euro may rise against the dollar because ECB policy makers will probably decide against introducing so-called quantitative easing when they meet May 7, Bank of Tokyo- Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. said.

“The failure to move to quantitative easing in the near term should help support the euro, especially against the dollar, given the Federal Reserve’s contrasting aggressive monetary easing approach,” Lee Hardman, a foreign-exchange strategist in London at Bank of Tokyo, wrote in a note yesterday.

To contact the reporter on this story: Sandy Hendry in Hong Kong at shendry@bloomberg.net"

Me:

Don the libertarian Democrat May 7 15:08
I keep quoting this speech, which pretty much details China's position on QE in a financial crisis:

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/english//detail.asp?col=6500&ID=138

"2. The role and contribution of China, as a responsible big country, in Asian financial crisis

In order to mitigate the impact of Asian financial crisis and help crisis-stricken Asian countries walk out of the plight, then China's Premier Zhu Rongji promised, on behalf of the Chinese government, to the world that the RMB would not depreciate, followed by a series of active measures and policies.



(1) China made vigorous efforts to participate in the IMF's rescue operations to help related Asian countries. After the outbreak of financial crisis, under the arrangement framework of the IMF, the Chinese government provided a total of over US$4 billion assistance to Thailand, as well as export credit and emergency free medicine assistance to Indonesia and other East Asian countries, although China had inadequate foreign exchange reserves at that time.



(2) China actively cooperated with relevant parties to participate in and advance regional cooperation. At the sixth ASEAN informal leaders' meeting, then China's President Jiang Zhemin unveiled three proposals of strengthening regional cooperation to refrain the crisis from spreading, reform and improve international financial system, and respect self-selected measures of relevant countries and areas to overcome financial crisis. At the second informal ASEAN+China, Japan and Korea leaders' meeting and the informal ASEAN+China leaders' meeting, then Vice President Hu Jintao emphasized that East Asian countries should vigorously engage in reform and adjustment of financial system, with the most pressing need to intensify the management and supervision over short-term capital flow. He called on the East Asian countries to strengthen exchange on macroeconomic issues such as financial reform, have dialogue between deputy finance ministers and deputy governors of central bank, and form expert team at appropriate time to launch in-depth research on specific measures on managing short term capital flow. The above measures adopted by the Chinese government received positive response and support from most crisis-stricken countries.



(3) China promised that the RMB would not depreciate. Being a highly responsible country, the Chinese government made the decision of no depreciation of the RMB with an aim of safeguarding regional stability and promoting development, which played a pivotal role in maintaining economic and financial stability of the Asian countries and the world at large, as well as Asian countries' economic recovery and regaining of rapid growth in later years.



(4) China implemented policies to boost domestic demand and stimulate economic growth. While sticking to no depreciation of the RMB, the Chinese government took a wide range of measures to boost domestic demand and stimulate economic growth, which safeguarded health and stability of domestic economic growth, mitigated difficult situation in the Asian economies, and fueled recovery of Asian economy.



The adoption of these measures by the Chinese government embodied that as a part of Asia, China had a full awareness of collective interests and responsibility and has made its due contribution to the rapid recovery and regaining of growth momentum of the Asian economy."

Friday, March 20, 2009

I cannot find any currency that I feel it is going to be a sound currency

TO BE NOTED: From Jim Rogers blog:

"There isn`t a Sound Currency

I cannot find any currency that I feel it is going to be a sound currency. Even Singapore, which insists in having a sound currency has the problem, if they have a sound currency and everybody debases theirs they will go out of business.

Jim Rogers is a legendary investor known for his ability to predict major long term trends in several markets. Jim trades and tracks commodities, stocks, futures and interest rates all over the world. Jim has travelled extensively around the world and has written some of the best investment books available for traders. His latest book is a Bull in China, a book about the chinese stock market. "

A sale of Banamex, at prices mooted around $9-12bn, would have a significant impact on the currency.

TO BE NOTED: From Alphaville:

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Citi, Banamex and the peso

Citi’s Banamex saga has taken a rather ludicrous turn:

MEXICO CITY, March 19 (Reuters) - Mexico said on Thursday that foreign governments can own stakes in its banks given the crisis in global financial markets, meaning Citigroup will not have to sell its Mexican subsidiary Banamex for now.

The finance ministry had been examining whether a U.S. government rescue plan to take a stake in Citigroup (C.N) would force a sale of Banamex, Mexico’s second-biggest bank and one of the crown jewels in Citi’s global banking empire.

“The law does not cover emergencies derived from the global crisis,” the ministry said in a statement, referring to legislation barring foreign governments from owning Mexican banks.

While the statement did not mention Banamex or Citi by name, it made clear that Mexico does not want to rile battered financial markets by forcing a Banamex sale.

If the legal logic behind this deal sounds rather strange, it’s because it is. There is something else going on here.

These two graphs, from Standard Chartered, should give you a hint of what that might be.

Standard Chartered - Mexico charts

The Mexican peso has weakened substantially since August 2008, meanwhile inflation in the country has stuck at quite a high level, creating something of a headache for the country’s central bank in terms of policy decisions; it can’t lower interest rates to boost its economy without further weakening the peso and increasing inflation.

A sale of Banamex, at prices mooted around $9-12bn, would have a significant impact on the currency.

RBS currency strategist Flavia Cattan-Naslausky explained to us last month:
… in 2001 Citibank paid USD12.5bn for Banamex. Banamex makes about USD900m in annual profits which is about 9x-10x book value. So that’s where this US9bn consensus number is coming from. But there are really several issues. First is who has that kind of cash?! And whoever does, do they want to put it all in Mexico these days?! So it would be more probable that there would need to be some financing scheme involved that lowers the cash portion of the payment. This would have strong implications for FX flows (or lack of) I think that it is a very big deal this whole sale as it will set a precedence for other foreign banks that need to divest in mexico because of nationalization of banks. It can get very complicated. That is why I think there is still a good amount of risk for the currency.

So being a bit flexible on legal rules on foreign ownership will save the Mexican government the hassle of sterilising currency outflows related to the deal and help preserve its fragile currency. A budding trade dispute with the US might might also have played a role in Mexican leniency, in this case.

But, make no mistake, this flexibility is meant to be very temporary. The Mexican government plans to send a bill to Congress to ‘clarify’ exemptions on foreign ownership restrictions in times of crisis. As Bloomberg reports, under that proposal:
… banks, after three years of operating under the exemption to allow foreign government stakes, would have to sell 25 percent of their Mexican unit’s shares on the local market. That requirement would rise to 50 percent of shares after six years.

So unless something changes in Citi’s ownership structure, Banamex is set to go — albeit eventually — whenever this ‘global crisis’ is over.

Related links:

Citigroup (C): Mexico moves the goalposts - Inca Kola
A Mexican US-fallout wave - FT Alphaville

Me:

Don the libertarian Democrat Mar 20 14:03
Unless I'm mistaken, it sounds as if this would also allow the US to seize Citi, and hence, Banamex, and hold it until it was sold, at least for three years.

Thursday, March 19, 2009

that it has the deepest and most sophisticated bond markets in the world (so there is somewhere to park capital reserves)

From the FT:

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The US dollar, the Norwegian krone and the ‘ugly contest’

All eyes have been on the Fed in the past 24 hours - and all currency gyrations, particularly the dollar’s sharp depreciation - have been attributed to the Fed’s move to spend $300bn on buying long-term Treasuries, among other measures. As some currency analysts observed on Thursday, however, the dollar’s steep decline suggests there may have been some over-reaction to the Fed’s move.

But there are other factors at work behind the dollar’s downward trajectory - not least, growing disenchantment in some parts of the world with US economic policies (or lack thereof), and rumbles about dumping the dollar as the world’s reserve currency and adopting a shared basket of currencies.

In an article about a gathering of top Asian think tanks on Thursday in Tokyo, Reuters reported:
The role of the US dollar as the key global currency will decline after the financial crisis, and its value may also weaken due to America’s current account deficit, officials at some of Asia’s top think tanks said. But Asia, which is heavily invested in US assets, hopes any decline in the dollar will be gradual to avoid further shocks to financial systems, the officials said on Thursday.

The bottom line was summed up by Chalongphob Sussangkarn, a former Thai finance minister and now president of Thailand Development Research Institute, who said:The US deficit is so huge. This is why all countries, particularly East Asia, are concerned because we hold a lot of these assets. What happens if the US dollar falls 40 percent? Many central bankers will be losing huge amounts of money.”

Such fears, now spreading among governments about their relatively large holdings of dollar reserves, have been fuelling moves at the United Nations and there is now growing speculation among analysts and forex markets that the UN is preparing a recommendation to member countries to move away from using the dollar as the world’s reserve currency and instead, adopt a shared basket of currencies. No matter that the UN often appears bureaucratic and ineffectual - it sometimes does make an impact - and almost certainly will if it goes ahead with such a push.

Growing speculation about such an announcement was “as large a reason for the overnight sell-off in the dollar, as was the Fed’s announcement to buy US Treasuries as part of their quantitative easing policy”, noted Richard Grace, CBA’s chief currency strategist in a Thursday note.

While Grace suggests it’s “worth waiting until next week” to see the full intention of the UN’s recommendation to diversify out of dollar, he voices three key reservations about such a move:(1) The UN does not carry as much weight as the G7. If it were a G7 announcement (or even an IMF announcement) then the announcement effect (and the full ramifications) on the USD would be extremely significant (and USD negative). We do not expect such an announcement from the G7 anytime soon.

(2) Most major currency reserve managers already diversify (out of USD) anyway. There is nothing new here. Currency reserve managers will diversify according to liquidity, expected return, and to cover a mix of underlying assets (be it imports or underlying securities). Central bank data from the IMF illustrates that, while there is plenty of room for diversification, a significant amount of reserves are already diversified in non-USD currencies (chart 4).

(3) Most trade contracts and commodity prices are priced in USD. If the UN statement is designed to re-price commodities and trade contracts in an alternative to the USD, and toward a basket of currencies such as Special Drawing Rights (SDR’s), then it is a significant announcement by the UN, and clearly USD negative. But it is worth waiting until next week to see if this is the intention of the UN, and if it has endorsement from the US Treasury. The logistics of such a move are huge and will take some time to implement, but an immediate depreciation of the USD under the above circumstances would certainly occur.

Afterall, notes Grace, the two major foundations which keep the dollar stable as the world’s major reserve currency are first, that the US is the largest economy in the world; and second, that it has the deepest and most sophisticated bond markets in the world (so there is somewhere to park capital reserves). “It takes time for alternative markets to grow and adjust to additional demand”, he noted.

Even so, it’s clear, as the FT reported recently, that countries such as China, which hold massive dollar reserves, are concerned, and that there is some interest in at least radically reducing dollar holdings if not shift out of the dollar as the reserve currency. And as we saw last week, moves by Switzerland to intervene in its currency - and fresh speculation that Japan may go the same route (see Related Links, below) has triggered much discussion within governments about forex holdings and safe-haven currencies.

On top of that is the point made by Morgan Stanley’s Stephen Jen this week, that plans to massively boost the IMF’s funds in order to channel aid to Eastern Europe could ultimately see the euro gaining substantial ground. Still, as Hong Kong-based research and investment house Gavekal remarks in a note on Thursday:

There are numerous reasons to dislike the euro … some valid concerns about sterling and the yen, and, with the Fed clearly indicating its “no holds barred” approach to printing money to spur economic activity, dollar-aversion is no surprise either…

Still, we continue to believe that, warm and fuzzy IMF statements aside, the issues Europe is confronting are very serious and will necessitate a political will and flexibility which we have yet to see on the Old Continent. Thus, of all the three-legged blind mules out there, the euro remains, in our view, the most structurally challenged.

Perhaps, as the FT’s currency correspondent Peter Garnham suggests on Thursday, Norway’s krone may emerge as the big, new safe-haven currency.

The bottom line, as Gavekal concludes, remains that picking a currency has truly become an “ugly contest”. Meanwhile, it says, “away from the spotlight, some currencies either offer tremendous value because they have been oversold concerns about debt exposure (SEK, KRW, IDR…), or because they have sound-enough fundamentals which, in these panicked times, the markets are ignoring (CA$, BRL, MYR…).”

Related links:
Norwegian krone: the new safe haven currency? - FT
Game-changer for the euro, and a coming CHF bloc - FT Alphaville
Getting the IMF to take the heat - FT Alphaville
Ministers agree on need to boost IMF funds - FT
The Swiss franc factor
- FT Alphaville
Swiss franc intervention - Short View
Swiss stoke fears of currency wars - FT
On your marks, get set, devalue
- FT Alphaville
China’s dollar dilemma - FT

Me:

Don the libertarian Democrat Mar 19 14:10
"The US deficit is so huge. This is why all countries, particularly East Asia, are concerned because we hold a lot of these assets. What happens if the US dollar falls 40 percent? Many central bankers will be losing huge amounts of money.”

Isn't the fact that the Flight to Safety necessitated losses when the economy reversed course understood? Surely they knew that it was a hedge against deflation, but that deflation was the one thing that everyone feared and the fight against it would be substantial. I guess what I'm saying is that they don't want to lose money on treasuries, but they want to US economy to strengthen as well, which seem contradictory goals, unless, again, you see the Flight to Safety as a hedge.

Frankly, the fact that there is a focal point for the Flight to Safety might end up being good, as it acted as a kind of LOLR for the world. I'm not sure yet that countries won't want to keep that burden, if you will, on the US, but time will tell.

Sunday, February 15, 2009

This is looking ugly indeed, and that's before you consider that European banks are on average much more leveraged than their US counterparts.

From Yves Smith:

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Sunday, February 15, 2009

Will Eastern Europe Trigger a Financial Meltdown?

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We've commented from time to time that a possible financial flashpoint is countries that got themselves in the same fix as Iceland , of having a banking sector engaged in the generally risky practices that were standard form recently, and was outsized relative to the economy (Willem Buiter also points out that that precarious situation is made worse by having your own teeny currency).

While Ireland is in that fix, a more immediate trigger for trouble is Eastern Europe. We've mentioned in particular the precarious position of Austria, which was a big lender to the region. As Ambrose Evans-Pritchard remarks in the Telegraph:
Austria's finance minister Josef Pröll made frantic efforts last week to put together a €150bn rescue for the ex-Soviet bloc. Well he might. His banks have lent €230bn to the region, equal to 70pc of Austria's GDP.

"A failure rate of 10pc would lead to the collapse of the Austrian financial sector," reported Der Standard in Vienna. Unfortunately, that is about to happen.

The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) says bad debts will top 10pc and may reach 20pc. The Vienna press said Bank Austria and its Italian owner Unicredit face a "monetary Stalingrad" in the East.

Mr Pröll tried to drum up support for his rescue package from EU finance ministers in Brussels last week. The idea was scotched by Germany's Peer Steinbrück. Not our problem, he said.....

Yves here. Recall we said a few days ago (based on admittedly a small number of conversations, but the Austrian and German businessmen were knowledgeable) that the Austrian banks were widely known to be bankrupt, that Austrians knew they needed to be rescued and would need help. The Austrians were highly confident that Germany would fund a bailout, and the Germans were mystified that the Austrians were so certain. The Germans' doubts appear to have been well founded. Back to the piece:
Stephen Jen, currency chief at Morgan Stanley, said Eastern Europe has borrowed $1.7 trillion abroad, much on short-term maturities. It must repay – or roll over – $400bn this year, equal to a third of the region's GDP. Good luck. The credit window has slammed shut....

"This is the largest run on a currency in history," said Mr Jen.

In Poland, 60pc of mortgages are in Swiss francs. The zloty has just halved against the franc. Hungary, the Balkans, the Baltics, and Ukraine are all suffering variants of this story. As an act of collective folly – by lenders and borrowers – it matches America's sub-prime debacle. There is a crucial difference, however. European banks are on the hook for both. US banks are not.

Almost all East bloc debts are owed to West Europe, especially Austrian, Swedish, Greek, Italian, and Belgian banks. En plus, Europeans account for an astonishing 74pc of the entire $4.9 trillion portfolio of loans to emerging markets....

Whether it takes months, or just weeks, the world is going to discover that Europe's financial system is sunk, and that there is no EU Federal Reserve yet ready to act as a lender of last resort or to flood the markets with emergency stimulus....

Erik Berglof, EBRD's chief economist, told me the region may need €400bn in help to cover loans and prop up the credit system....

The sums needed are beyond the limits of the IMF, w...We are nearing the point where the IMF may have to print money for the world, using arcane powers to issue Special Drawing Rights.

Its $16bn rescue of Ukraine has unravelled. The country – facing a 12pc contraction in GDP after the collapse of steel prices – is hurtling towards default, leaving Unicredit, Raffeisen and ING in the lurch. Pakistan wants another $7.6bn. Latvia's central bank governor has declared his economy "clinically dead" after it shrank 10.5pc in the fourth quarter...

"This is much worse than the East Asia crisis in the 1990s," said Lars Christensen, at Danske Bank.

This is looking ugly indeed, and that's before you consider that European banks are on average much more leveraged than their US counterparts.
More on this topic (What's this?)
Austria: In the Eye of the Storm
Austrian CB Projects Mild Recession In 2009
Austria: More Than Just A Financial Haven
Read more on Investing in Austria at Wikinvest
Me:

Don said...

The important point of Evans-Pritchard's post is that he sees the social disruptions and dislocations that can arise from this crisis. Oddly, many people are assuming that this crisis is business as usual. Had the government's actions been better, that might have been the case, and we still might avert massive unemployment. But we are getting dangerously close to the point in Debt-Deflation that the cure will be nearly as awful as the malady. Employment in that scenario will be much worse than it is now. Then ,all bets are off.

Don the libetarian Democrat and follower of Edmund Burke

February 15, 2009 11:55 AM

Thursday, October 30, 2008

" The irony is that Japanese regulators were once hugely protective of retail investors"

Yves Smith on Naked Capitalism about PRDC's in Japan:

"This Times Online story is frustratingly vague about the exact nature of these complicated and risky foreign exchange products sold to Japanese retail investors. While the size of the problem ($90 billion) may seem not all that bad in comparison, say, to subprime exposures, recall that these trades are likely to be unwound in a compressed period of time when currency markets are already volatile, thus increasing the potential for havoc.

The irony is that Japanese regulators were once hugely protective of retail investors and placed tough restrictions on what products could be sold to them. That attitude clearly went out the window.

From the Times Online:"

Please read the story. Here are my posts, with Yves thrown in:

Don said...

See John Gapper on FT here:

http://blogs.ft.com/gapperblog/2008/10/mrs-watanabe-and-the-sudden-rise-of-the-yen/


"The accounts showed that it was common for Japanese retail investors to be offered leverage of 20 times or more for their cash. In other words, they could deposit the equivalent of $1,000 and take trading positions of $20,000. A lot of them had used the opportunity to buy higher-yielding foreign assets.

The trade worked fine for Japanese investors as long as currencies remained stable and they could in effect switch yen into higher-yielding assets denominated in other currencies. But the sharp rise in the yen - and comparative fall in the value of these foreign assets - is probably landing Mrs Watanabe and her friends with big losses.

Here, to expand the point, is a prescient piece from FT Alphaville a year ago."

Don the libertarian Democrat

And:

Don said...

"The important thing to know about Mrs Watanabe is that, temporarily at least, she has all but stopped flapping her wings"

Who is Mrs. Watanabe?

"Mrs Watanabe is crude shorthand for Japan’s $15,000bn pool of savings, the deepest in the world and worth more than the annual economic output of the US. These vast resources are somewhat apocryphally marshalled by Japanese women, who have traditionally held a firm grip on family finances."

Let's see:

1) Rising yen
2) Lower interest rates
3) Next bubble

David Pilling in the FT:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0df30044-a5f4-11dd-9d26-000077b07658.html

"The yen carry trade has not been the only cheap source of liquidity in recent years. But Ashraf Laidi, chief currency strategist at CMC Markets, reckons it has been the biggest. He quotes figures suggesting that Japanese households alone, discounting savings mediated through life assurers and other institutions, have mobilised $500bn in outbound funds. That leaves aside speculators, who have borrowed unknowable amounts of yen to invest abroad, often on highly leveraged terms.

Just as state bank bail-outs risk moral hazard, more recklessness and the need for future bail-outs, so the unwinding of the carry trade carries with it the danger of the next great bubble. In Japan, the central bank appears to have reacted to a rising yen and sinking stock market by contemplating the uncontemplatable: a rate cut. Even the rumour of such has provoked a mini equity rally and a weakening of the currency.

This is poison for the BoJ. It hated having to keep rates low, fearing that cheap money can cause bubbles in real estate, in capital investment and in the carry trade. Its sightings of inflationary danger everywhere provoked mirth among outside experts. But few are laughing now."

And so:
"If Japan really is about to reverse course towards zero interest rates, it will once again become the source of almost free money for anyone with an appetite to invest. Worse even than that, says Mr Laidi, is the potential for an even more dangerous dollar carry trade. The Federal Reserve has been desperately cutting rates, and lopped another half point off again on Wednesday. The nearer US interest rates approach zero, the greater the incentive to move dollars into higher-yielding assets elsewhere.

These gyrations do nothing to solve the underlying problem, which is that Asia has an excess of savers and the US and Europe an excess of spenders. Unless that is solved, the world seems condemned to repeat the swings of recent years, as capital is arbitraged between countries where money is cheap to those where it is expensive."

Problems:

1) Dollar carry trade

2) Asia saves, the West spends

3) Here we go again

Is this real?

Don the libertarian Democrat

And:

Don said...

Following an earlier comment about Japan, if you have domestically:
1)Low interest rates
2)Stagnant stock market
3)Stable exchange rate
4)Low inflation
Doesn't it make sense that you would try and invest overseas? And after the tech bubble, doesn't it make sense that you would look for bonds that would provide you higher yields?
Naturally, if any of these variable change significantly, you could be in trouble. So when the story says:
"The products combine exposure to foreign exchange, interest rate differentials and domestic inflation"
it's not saying anything profound.
And when we read this:
"The PRDC's complexity disguised from the buyers the fact that they were taking on the same big foreign exchange risks as the regular carry trade but with additional exposure to global interest rate volatility."
it's a little hard to credit, since I just described the investment's worth and problems in a few short lines?

Don the libertarian Democrat

And Yves:

Yves Smith said...

Don,

The shortcoming in the list above is 'stable currency". In a world of floating currencies (or mainly floating, and Japan was not one of the ones maintaining a dollar peg) the FX risk is huge, although for extended period (perhaps up to a couple of years with not too much movement) it can look low.

And if you read the stories on Japanese retail currency traders, they were as frenetic last year as day traders in the tech bubble here.

The yen was in fact cheap, so the risk was that despite the pickup in yield, you would lose far more due to a fall in the higher-yielding currency. When I was a kid, no one would EVER think of making deposits in higher-yielding currencies, everyone understood that the high yield was a big big signal that a price fall was in the cards.

And me again ( the dummy ):

Don said...

Yves, Thanks. Great point. I was just about to mention these PRDC's on a post about securitization. I think that you make my case, and that we're both on the same page.

I agree that the assumptions seem crazy, my only point was that you would have thought the risks you just rightly pointed out should be easily explainable, even if the products inner workings are complex. From your comments, I was trying to understand how even you were having a hard time with them, and I now see that it's the risk as much as the complexity. I hope I've understood you now, and that my point is clearer.

Don the libertarian Democrat

PS Your blog is great. I'm learning so much from it, but I won't blame my mistakes on you. Take care