"Oh My God, Nationalization Is NOT Possible
Let me try this again:
Nationalization of a bank like Citigroup is not possible.
Receivership is also not possible, even if Treasury's proposed resolution authority for major financial institutions passes.
Citigroup is an international financial institution. It has branches and subsidiaries in over 100 countries. As Justin Fox points out, of Citi's $755 billion in deposits, $515 billion are outside the US. In general, each of Citi's foreign offices is subject to the insolvency laws of the country in which it is located. If the government put Citi in receivership or conservatorship, most of these foreign countries would seize the assets of the Citi subsidiaries in their jurisdictions and begin their own bankruptcy procedures. Any legitimate claims the US has on Citi's foreign assets would be governed by a convoluted web of international agreements.
The complications don't end there. Citi has over 2,000 principal subsidiaries. The Treasury's proposed resolution authority—which is essentially a scaled-up FDIC resolution, with a few changes—doesn't apply to subsidiaries which are registered brokers or dealers, insurance companies, FDIC-insured depository institutions, hedge funds, investment advisors, or private equity funds. (I'm sure I'm missing some too, since I'm not a bankruptcy lawyer by any means)
The insolvency of registered broker-dealer subsidiaries is handled primarily by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC) under a resolution procedure designed specifically for broker-dealer liquidations. Insurance company insolvencies are governed by state insurance regulations, and handled by state insurance authorities. Obviously, the FDIC handles insured depository institutions under its traditional resolution authority. The rest of the subsidiaries not covered by the Treasury's resolution authority are thrown into bankruptcy court.
And this is all before you get to the actual restructuring, which would almost have to take the form of an FDIC-managed conservatorship. The assets and liabilities that the FDIC ultimately takes into conservatorship would likely be badly mismatched on several levels, and would bear almost no resemblance to Citigroup's pre-insolvency assets and liabilities. Seeing as the only bank stupid enough to buy this kind of mangled, leftover balance sheet outright is .... umm, Citigroup .... the FDIC will have to do some serious restructuring. In all likelihood, that means bondholders will have to take haircuts. How did that work out with Lehman again? Oh, right. It caused an epic financial panic that almost brought down the global financial system. Good luck with that. Cheer up, though: you're almost a third of the way through the vaunted "temporary nationalization" process.
I won't bore you any further. Suffice to say that this doesn't even scratch the surface of the legal obstacles to nationalization or receivership. As I'm sure you can see by now, the idea that Citigroup can be taken into receivership, restructured, and recast as a well-capitalized bank all in one weekend, is borderline delusional.
The broader point is that no matter how well a Citigroup receivership works in a Paul Krugman or Simon Johnson hypothetical, in the real world it's not a serious option.
OK. Here's where there might be a misunderstanding about nationalization. If Citi continues to need government aid, we will eventually own the majority of the stock. At some point, it might be necessary for the US to take effective control of Citi. I guess that we could put in our own management, and unwind Citi ourselves. After all, that's what they admit that they have to do. At some point in this process, Citi will be much smaller. Again, they say themselves that they are going to be much smaller. We might then sell the shares, seize it, how do I know. But there has to be some kind of plan other than just giving them whatever money they need no matter how incompetent that they are. Remember: We already are shareholders.
Don the libertarian Democrat
"It would take the same amount of time if Citi were nationalized. Yes, taxpayers are already shareholders, but what else would you have Pandit & Co. do?"
What I'm saying is that, as shareholders, we need to assess Pandit and Co.s performance.For instance, we might disagree with their continuing to hold a particular asset. If Citi were to ask for more money, we would do the same. If we give them more money, and received stock in return, we might well, for all practical purposes, own Citi. Whether you call that nationalization is a good question. In any case, we might well have to put in our own team. That was my point: In a sense, it's a distinction without a difference. Whether we seized Citi or simply put in our own team, the game plan might well be the same.
So, I was suggesting that, even if we cannot do what you suggest, we might well have to do something very similar. Since we were already legally shareholders, I didn't see any legal problems to our becoming majority owners, and essentially owning the company.
At some point in that process, I was suggesting that we might be able to either sell our stock and get out, or, after pruning Citi down, seize it.
It would not be easy or immediate, but that's a good reason to push forward legislation that can alleviate this problem in the future. Since we seem to agree on so much, I was asking if you were thinking of our owning Citi, if it happened, as nationlization or not. I simply wasn't clear.
Don the libertarian Democrat
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