Tuesday, March 10, 2009

This is what Warren Buffett was referring to when he talked about the advantage of being a financial crippled in this economy.

From Clusterstock:

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MARKETS SOAR (C, MSFT)
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C Mar 10 2009, 05:55 PM EDT
1.45 Change % Change
+0.40 +38.10%
MSFT Mar 10 2009, 05:40 PM EDT
16.48 Change % Change
+1.33 +8.78%
After days and days of unending pain and false hopes of a bottom, the market finally roared higher today. If nothing else, it was a nice one-day respite from the steady drip of a melting economy. Of course, throughout this down-cycle we've had several monster rallies and they've never amounted to anything.

The big winners: The banks. After Vikram Pandit's memo suggesting that Citigroup (C) was operating at a profit, they all roared higher. Citi itself was up 36%.

Other big winners: Big tech. Lost in all the news was Microsoft's (MSFT) announced dividend hike to $.13 per quarter from $.11. It's a modest amount nominally, but given where the stock was trading, it now pays a pretty juicy 3.4% dividend. It ended up over 8%, and the NASDAQ as a whole was up over 7%.

The final levels on the indices: The Dow ended up 379.44, to 6926.49, the S&P 500 added 43.07, to close at 719.60 and the NASDAQ gained 89.64, finishing at 1,358.28.

Clearly the market was due for some kind of vicious move upwards. Eventually the easy trade -- shorting the banks day in and day out -- was going to come back and bite the traders in the ass.

None of this means the market is "back" however, and there's even a negative spin on the Citi news, which is that the bank is profitable merely because of the massive amount of help its received from the govermnent, lowering its cost of capital, potentially creating a competitive advantage over sound, healthy institutions. This is what Warren Buffett was referring to when he talked about the advantage of being a financial crippled in this economy."

Me:

Don the libertarian Democrat (URL) said:
"None of this means the market is "back" however, and there's even a negative spin on the Citi news, which is that the bank is profitable merely because of the massive amount of help its received from the govermnent, lowering its cost of capital, potentially creating a competitive advantage over sound, healthy institutions. This is what Warren Buffett was referring to when he talked about the advantage of being a financial crippled in this economy."

That's a very good point. So, when John Hempton quotes this:

http://brontecapital.blogspot.com/2009/03/fools-seldom-differ.html

"BUFFETT: Yeah, and interestingly enough, they don't need to supply the banks, in my view, with lots of capital. They need to let almost all of--I mean, the right prescription with most of the banks is just let them pay very little in the way of dividends and build up capital for awhile, and they will build up a lot of capital. The government has needed to say--what the government needs to say is nobody's going to lose a dime by having their deposits in these banks. They're going to make lots of money with the deposits."

Buffett is making a point about how government help hurts private investments, like his. Right?

Also, the amount of the profit wasn't announced, was it?

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