Friday, December 12, 2008

What's The Bother About Labor Unions?

I want to consider the following point by Sebastian Mallaby in the Washington Post:

"And, given the object lesson from the collapse of the Big Three carmakers, government should think carefully before empowering labor unions further."

Now, I understand that Labor Unions are, in general, an interest group in the US tied to the Democratic Party. I also understand that GOP Senators from Southern States where there are foreign automakers competing with Detroit wouldn't be excited about given a lending hand to Detroit, based on regional politics and the interest's of their constituents. It might be nice to know if those states used what are called "incentives" in order to lure those automakers to those states, which I call government intervention in the market. So far, I understand.

What I don't understand is the bother created by Labor Unions in general. After all, the Labor Unions represent individuals who have freely chosen this representation, and the contracts that they arrive at with their employers are also freely entered into. What's the big problem?

As to wages, I have no idea if the wages they receive are fair or not, without looking into exactly what they're making and what they do and how much the company makes. Even then, I have no exact feelings about the correct or fair wage compensation. That's up to the people involved.

I don't understand this bother created by people making good money. What's the problem? That's not a bad thing. I would hope that they make as much as they can. So would I.

I also agree with Dean Baker here:

"The Employee Free Choice Act and the Right to a Secret Ballot

Workers do not currently have the right to a secret ballot in elections deciding whether or not they will have a union. The employer has the option to recognize a union based on card check (a majority of workers sign a card indicating their desire to join a union) or to demand an election certified by the National Labor Relations Board. The Employee Free Choice Act that will be considered by Congress in the next session gives this choice to workers.

Under the legislation, workers could organize by card check, but they can also petition to have an election overseen by the NLRB. Therefore it is incorrect for the Post to assert that the bill's "intent [is] to eliminate secret ballots in union elections."

But my bottom line is that I have no opinion about Unions. If people want them, that's fine. If they don't, that's fine as well. As long as people are freely choosing to organize and freely agreeing to a contract with their employer, who is also freely agreeing, I don't have a position one way or another.

This also informs my feelings about CEO pay and Hedge Fund Managers pay. It does seem excessive and the incentives seem poorly designed, but I have no position on what they should make. Again, I'd have to see what they do and how well they do it, and how important they are to their business in general. I have no a priori figure in mind.

I also understand that if, as I said before, I worked at AIG in a division that had been making money throughout this bubble and crisis, I wouldn't be too happy about having to take a pay cut because of other's stupidity. It might well make me feel unappreciated, and I would leave AIG. So, not all of their bonuses are necessarily idiotic.

I know that there are people who have theories of justice, say, that demand certain limits to salaries and wealth and their concentration, which I have some agreement with. I certainly don't want to see concentrations of power, and, if concentrations of wealth lead to that, then that's a problem that needs to be addressed.

My main concern is for the truly needy. In that sense, I agree with Rawls and others who believe that our shared resources should aid the truly needy first. Now, who's truly needy is a matter of opinion in many cases, and whether or not people are derserving of help is another matter of opinion, but I stand by the belief that we should help the truly needy first, as in foreign policy, we should focus, in our human rights aspect of foreign policy, on where the most people are suffering and dying. What good we can do might vary, but we can at least keep our eyes on, and focus enough of our attention on, where the worst human suffering is occurring.

2 comments:

Nick Rowe said...

An analogy: suppose a husband could divorce a wife and remarry (or not) just by saying "I divorce you" 3 times. But suppose a wife could not divorce her husband. Where would power lie in the marriage?

And unless women were forced to marry, a lot would choose to remain single. And there would be a lot of involuntarily unmarried men.

Same with the labour market with unions: a worker can quit the firm any time he wants, to work at another firm, or whatever. But if the firm wants to quit the worker, because he has found a better offer from another worker, all hell breaks loose on the picket line, the baseball bats come out, etc.

So, since firms aren't forced to hire workers, a lot of them choose not to, and there are a lot of involuntarily unmarried/unemployed workers.

Donald Pretari said...

Nick,

Thanks for your response. The contracts that both parties agreed to were freely entered into. Period. They were entered into under the laws at that time. If it's fine to complain that the unions currently have an advantage in negotiations, then it's fine for a group of people who are poor to complain that there's an unfair advantage when they go to accept a job from an employer. If you say that they can try and find work elsewhere, then I can say that God didn't give the owners their company, and they're free to go find another job or start another business if they don't like the union's offer. I'm sorry, but each side can freely walk away.

As for marriage,I don't know if prenuptial contracts are a good thing or not, but, again, if people can walk away, then they can walk away without marrying. Period.

I don't have a general answer to your question. I think I know what you're saying, but a free society only works with the consent of the governed. I used to advocate an idea that worked towards full employment by cutting hours, as I recall. It turned out that unions didn't like them, because of seniority and other problems. I can see both sides.

It's wonderful to think that it's obvious what the best deal for society in general, as opposed to what personal interest, is. But, in the real world, it isn't so clear, because it's not clear what social unrest and a disenchanted public can lead to.

It's simply not clear what Labor Unions would actually be replaced with, where they to disappear. As a Burkean, I'd prefer not to find out. I prefer small changes that I can understand and manage. In this crisis, trashing the unions does not seem like a wise move, but I could be wrong. It could be that I fear a different crisis than you.

I hope you've prodded me to be clearer.