Sunday, February 1, 2009

there are funds which have easy enough to mark to market assets and where the assets are sufficiently liquid are refusing to give money back.

From John Hempton:

Blogger"John Paulson accuses his competitors of theft or fraud


I was reading Paulson Funds latest client letter (hat-tip Kedrosky). It is an enviable list of the things he got right this year. However one section jumped out at me – a hand grenade thrown at about 100 hedge funds:

Redemption policy

As a firm, we have not imposed any gates or other restrictions on clients withdrawing their assets. While we recognize the difficulties of the current environment, we think it’s a manager responsibility to raise liquidity to meet the needs of their investors. There is plenty of liquidity in the markets. Even in opaque areas of the markets such as in bank debt, mortgage backed securities and other distressed securities, we see hundreds of millions of dollars trading every day. We are especially surprised that many managers have restricted client withdrawas when: 1) the total redemptions are manageable (15-25% of AUM); 2) the managers have the cash; and 3) one of the stated reasons for restricting withdrawals is so the manager can continue to invest in new opportunities. Emphasis added.

I read this as John Paulson saying that there are funds which have easy enough to mark to market assets and where the assets are sufficiently liquid are refusing to give money back. Theft or fraud. Or maybe both. Moreover the liquidity according to Paulson is sufficient that funds almost never should have stop withdrawals – even in opaque areas of the market.

Now I guess it is up to John Paulson to name names – or perhaps some enterprising WSJ reporter can do it for us. Whatever – this is a big story.



John Hempton


Me:

Don said...

I agree with you about pricing and buying. Paulson and other investors have been buying since November when TARP looked to be out of the Toxic Asset business and the price fell. My theory was that the holders of these assets want and are waiting for government intervention of some kind. In fact, Liddy said just that. He considers AIG's money to be a bridge loan in order to avoid selling assets at a fire sale price.

I understand you to be saying that one way to avoid being caught up in a Calling Run is to say that you can't fulfill the calls. This would be fraud, and would also go some way to explain the supposed lack of liquidity in this market. If this is true, you have certainly seen a very important point.

Don the libertarian Democrat

February 2, 2009 9:49 AM

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