Sunday, November 2, 2008

The Derivatives Made Me Do It

Mark Thoma quotes an article on derivatives:

"How did a mere $400 billion dollars in subprime losses cause such big problems? Counterparties, by Richard Green: I participated last week in a Berkeley-UCLA conference on the Mortgage Meltdown.

Two distinguished scholars said things that surprised me. One noted that the net position of derivatives was zero (a correct statement) and therefore derivatives were nothing to worry about. The other said that the size of the subprime losses would likely be around $400 billion, which should have been manageable. I should note that I made a similar statement about subprime losses around a year ago, but I didn't really think through the implications of it."

Read the post, but it's another mechanistic explanation as I call them, as opposed to an explanation based on human actions.

Here's my comment:

Don the libertarian Democrat says...

There is nothing inherently scary about derivatives or even credit default swaps. In the case of AIG, the CDS's had lower capital requirements because they were made when AIG had a AAA rating. It is simply a lack of capital.

In the case of securitization or derivatives, there is nothing inherently complicated in them. There is no reason that they couldn't be correctly capitalized.

The problem was not the instruments, but the lenders. Even in the case of sub-prime loans, a rather iffy prospect on the face of it, there is no reason that any lender couldn't limit his exposure on these loans to an acceptable default level.

He correctly points out the problem here:

"The problem is that the $400 billion in losses on subprime mortgages and the derivatives they support are being realized by highly levered institutions, and so losses precipitate a chain of events that go well beyond he original losses."

The problem is the leveraging, not the investments themselves. Plenty of them are being fulfilled. Too many people are being let off the hook for poor investments by blaming easy credit or complicated arrangements. I'm sorry, I don't buy it. What I buy is incredibly poor investing that never should have been accepted. We should really assess why this happened, not blame the investments for the investors stupidity.

Posted by: Don the libertarian Democrat | Link to comment | November 02, 2008 at 11:43

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