Thursday, November 13, 2008

"John Maynard Keynes called it the Paradox of Thrift, but most economists I know don't talk about it much for fear of being labeled a Keynesian."

I can think of worse things to be called. In fact, I've been called them. Repeatedly. Bob McTeer on The Paradox Of Thrift:

"The economy is facing quite a dilemma-or paradox. Actually, John Maynard Keynes called it the Paradox of Thrift, but most economists I know don't talk about it much for fear of being labeled a Keynesian. The paradox is this: most of us need to save more, i.e., consume less of our disposable income. Yet, if all or most of us try to save more at the same time, income will fall. The paradox comes in because out of the lower income we will likely end up saving less, not more.

The problem for the economy is this: consumption makes up about 70 percent of total spending, and consumption has been supporting the economy for years even though the personal saving rate is close to zero. The reason is that individual consumers who have experienced capital gains in their homes and in their stock or mutual fund portfolios (including those in their pension funds, 401Ks, IRAs, and the like) have thought of those capital gains as saving and thus have been willing to consume virtually all of their current income. (This is legit for individuals, but not for the nation as a whole since resources aren't being made available by capital gains.)"

Now, I see this as a problem of incentives for individuals, not a paradox. The incentives must be re-balanced to motivate individuals to spend and invest.

Here's my response:

Don the libertarian Democrat Says:
  1. “Second, and perhaps more important, “savings” represent loanable funds; an increase in the supply of loanable funds tends to lower interest rates and stimulate borrowing, so a decline in consumable goods with a short time horizon is offset by an increase in production in sectors with longer time horizons. For example, the demand for personal electronics might decline, but the demand for such things as real estate would be stimulated by favorable borrowing conditions.”

    I was going to write this, but Wikipedia says it better than I would have. During a recession, one can pass laws to increase long term investment and infrastructure spending, using tax breaks or government investment.

    As well, use loans and spending to help people start businesses. I actually started a business during a recession as I recall. I got a great deal on my rent at the time.

    By giving benefits to people who aren’t able to spend, with targeted tax cuts and investment, saving can be a good thing at all times. Of course, as a follower of Maimonides, moderation in most things is the wise course.

    The Paradox of Thrift seems more a problem of group versus individual behavior, which can be overcome with countervailing incentives for individuals.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Conservative blogger and radio host, Kevin Price said he thought Obama might slow down the move towards raising capital gains at www.BizPlusBlog.com. Do you think Obama might be thinking twice?

Donald Pretari said...

Joe, I think that President Obama should lower the capital gains tax. I can't see him raising any taxes in the near future, but, I admit, he's an economic mystery as of today. I've been betting that he's much more of an economic centrist than many think, but you never know.By the way, the capital gains tax reduction could be keyed to increase further investment.